Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:57:58 +0100 From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> Cc: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_prot.c Message-ID: <84263.1017093478@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:26:33 PST." <200203252126.g2PLQX482425@apollo.backplane.com>
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In message <200203252126.g2PLQX482425@apollo.backplane.com>, Matthew Dillon wri tes: One is sorely tempted to say: "There he goes again..." :-( > I am extremely disappointed in core's actions to date. I have > repeatedly asked that these issues be decided on technical merit. And a lot of people have been trying to explain to you that decisions are not taken solely on technical merit, neither in FreeBSD nor anywere else. > Instead, Core has made vague statements essentially giving a single > person VETO power over substantially the entire -current kernel. I > would like to see Core clarify this statement in regards to what is > reasonable and what is not, [...] I don't really feel this is necessary, the only person who is in doubt about this seems to be you, but considering the amount of noise you are able of making, maybe that alone is sufficient reason that core should spell out for you what most other people seem to understand already. There is no doubt that if core did issue such a statement, you will use it the way Ken Star used subpoenas against Clinton, everybody will have to dance to the letter of this ruling, or there will be hell to pay with Dillon. So before core commits to such a statement for your sake, let me ask you this related question: would you be willing to accept the statement if it also stipulated what is reasonable and what is not when it comes to your own behaviour and conduct in the project ? The reason I ask is this: Quite frankly, there are more than this one person who is sick and tired of your total lack of teamsmanship, and who think it is getting more and more tiresome with these "Dillonizations" everytime you don't get things your exact way. Simple math will prove that you have wasted far more developer time in all the appearantly endless email fights you create than you have ever and will ever be able to contribute to the project. I'm also particular saddened that I hear more and more developers express sentiments along the lines of "I don't touch code in this part of the kernel any more, I don't want to even talk to Dillon". My personal opinion is that your "sell by" date in FreeBSD is past, way past, and that you contribute negatively to the project by you mere precense. I also know that I am not alone with this feeling. So before you ask for the clarification from core, be warned that what you get back could be a two edged sword with an unpleasant off-center balance... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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