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Date:      Fri, 8 Apr 2022 03:45:25 +0100
From:      Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>
To:        tech-lists <tech-lists@zyxst.net>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why don't you eat your own dog food?
Message-ID:  <20220408034525.f996ecf1e21fe0c3a52ca9bb@sohara.org>
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On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 03:20:09 +0100
tech-lists <tech-lists@zyxst.net> wrote:

> It's not really security per se, it's g**gles way of making money.
> I'd prefer not to be monetized for metadata on any platform.
> 
> I'd prefer seeing hardenedbsd ml on their own sw/hw. It would
> show faith, trust. Right now, it isn't.

	So contact the hardenedbsd project and show them your hardenedbsd
based mailing list POC set up with all their lists cloned to it and offer
to maintain it as part of the project.

	I presume they use Google Groups because nobody on the project
wants to run a mailing list so if you think they should then you're bit is
to help find someone who does and the obvious candidate is the person who
feels strongly that it should be done - you! You lack the time ? You have
more important things to do ? So do they!

	As for the FreeBSD project eating its own dog food, reflect on the
fact that FreeBSD has been self hosting since its inception and has
*always* been developed on FreeBSD and has *always* shipped the sources
that built the system with it.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>



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