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Date:      Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:06:38 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        Steve Price <sprice@hiwaay.net>
Cc:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@NUXI.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Switching to EGCS on Saturday (PST)
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904031704550.17520-100000@feral-gw>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.10.9904031853330.14373-100000@fly.HiWAAY.net>

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> On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> 
> # > Something that someone playing with bleeding edge bits should
> # > be willing to do, IMHO.
> # 
> # That's ridiculous. There's substantial work ongoing in 4.0 with enough
> # people involved that changing things around for the hell of it and not
> # sticking to broadcast times is just plain stupid. It's called 'dufus
> # engineering', or 'freshman humour' or some such. Just because it's
> # so-called 'bleeding edge' doesn't mean you can just integrate any old crap
> # and just say "well- it's bleeding edge". Harumph.
> 

Sorry- let me apologize for bad tone. Bad day for me.

> We are not changing it for the hell of it.  From what I gather
> David already has things ready and is just waiting for Sunday
> to come to commit the changes.  Committing them now gives much
> of the people who will work to fix things that get broken a
> whole day more this weekend to work on them.  This isn't 'dufus
> engineering' it is called advancing the state-of-the-art.  It
> has been a long time coming and needs to be done, sooner than
> later.
> 
> Just because the compiler changes doesn't mean development on
> the 4.0 branch have to stop.  We need to get this change in the
> hands of as many people as we can so that we can work out any
> remaining hitches.  Waiting another 24 hours == wasting another
> 24 hours, IMHO.

I suppose. It's also fair to state that sticking to stated plans is good
too.





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