Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 17:40:38 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> To: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org> Cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: patch for web site to include advocacy site Message-ID: <23784.926210438@zippy.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 09 May 1999 01:53:21 %2B0200." <19990509015321.37276@panke.de.freebsd.org>
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> maintaining an old server. But Don was not hired to duplicate > the web pages. He should fix the main pages at www.freebsd.org! Don wasn't hired to make web pages either, actually, and hasn't. It's another group of people who are doing and have done the actual content of this site, a group independant of freebsd.org in most senses of the word. Why independent? The number one good reason is that getting someone added to committers just so that they can update a news entry adds a lot of overhead, to put it mildly, as does the process of getting them an account on freefall (a machine we're now trying to *tighten up* access to rather than widen) and acquainted with ssh and/or kerberos. Since there is also no existing mechanism in the current web pages at freebsd.org which allows "reporters" to easily drop off their copy for publication, a real bottleneck is created in trying to recruit a true "advocacy team" which can proactively go out and gather stuff for immediate publication without having to take a long detour through the PR database and some overworked committer first. This also seems to be how a lot of the more dynamic sites are being run - a lot of CGI automation and roving reporters dropping off their stories for the top page of the day. Since I didn't see this getting created at www.freebsd.org any time soon, it simply made sense to set up another box where the advocacy folks could play with mysql and postgres and Apache/php3 and whatever else they felt necessary to use in trying to create a dynamic set of pages which present more timely PR information to our users and our advocates alike. Half the tools they're playing with I probably wouldn't even want installed on freefall at all, at least not until everything was past the experimental stage and a clearer picture of all the various requirements was available. We're still quite a ways from offering FAQ-o-matic style interfaces to developers and auto-generating gallery/PR/news content based on their submissions and the folks working on it are going to be doing a lot of prototyping before they're through (assuming that ever happens :). A production machine is not a good place to play with prototypes, but a relatively little-known advocacy.freebsd.org server is. If you're concerned about connectivity and/or mirror convenience, wouldn't it be possible to simply mirror some portion of that machine for redistribution? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message
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