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Date:      Wed, 15 Apr 1998 00:04:53 -0400
From:      Dan Janowski <danj@3skel.com>
To:        Das Devaraj <das@netcom.com>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: What else goes with it (was Re: New name?)
Message-ID:  <353431E4.125164C8@3skel.com>
References:  <Pine.3.89.9804132025.A24573-0100000@netcom4>

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Das Devaraj wrote:


> On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Dan Janowski wrote:
>
> > > - Specify whom this system is for
> > >   (currently FreeBSD seems geared for server applications)
> >
> > This is not really true. It seems that way because there is ashortage of
> > desktop type applications.
>
> When I installed Apache on FreeBSD 2.2.5 *think* it brought up
> six copies.  Surely, a set-up for a server? :-)  Granted these
> things are easy enough to correct (fix?), if one reads the

6 httpd's are nothing. this is not NT. There is a lot that I am no
longersensitive to about the install process, but I have found that the
defaults are pretty sane.

> ...

> > We are not going to hit the MS desktop. The completeness and
> > ease of use for most is there.
>
> My plan was not to go against the MS desktop.  Also I am
> not implying that the completeness and ease are lacking.  Only
> that it is well hidden, unless you have a certain amount of

The issue here is that we have an OS that is an old growth
forest: filled with every kind of tree but very few maps.
If you find a tree, iyou can learn a lot about it and from it.

The essential question is still unresolved, other than server and real
Unix users, what is FreeBSD best for? I understand that people
want to use it and that more people would if they could get over
the techincal hump at the beginning. but why? This is not a
why in the sense of why bother, but what is the motivation
and benefit? I know why I use it. My business depends on FreeBSD
in a very mission critical way. I can't buy a commecial system
as stable, good performing or as incredibly flexible. But I
am a Unix nut. I use XFig, troff, emacs, vi, sc, ghostscript,
and I write enough code to make it work really well.

Why does someone else want to use it? Do we tell people
it is awsomely powerful for connecting to the Internet?

Anyway, I am not pessimistic about what people can do
with FreeBSD. It is a real question. Marketing has to
be focused on a market, and I really don't know what
the hell non-programmers or non-Unix heads do with this.
I am really curious.

Dan


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danj@3skel.com
Dan Janowski
Triskelion Systems, Inc.
Bronx, NY




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