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Date:      Sat, 3 Feb 2018 16:39:02 +0100
From:      Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
Subject:   Re: German keyboard support for gdm???
Message-ID:  <20180203163902.0ae3ea93@archlinux.localdomain>
In-Reply-To: <20180203133622.1b4048de.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 13:36:22 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
>Overriding an X (global!) setting is still a bad idea for "the right
>behaviour" for GDM, in my opinion... but well, that's Linux... ;-)

I won't tolerate that :D! Asuming this should be the case, then it's a
GTK/GNOME folks related upstream default config issue!

I suspect that several display managers or their greeters provide an
option to override X settings, but this at least is disabled by
default (if this should be the GDM culprit, theire still is the chance
for the FreeBSD maintainers to care about the defaults ;).

However, FreeBSD does provide Linux DEs. At least the "big" DE's seem
to require Wayland as an X replacement in the close future.

The last time I used FreeBSD + Linux I was on Xfce, nowadays I'm using
Linux only and migrated to a plain window manager. I can't stand DE's
anymore and on top of my "I can't stand this list" is GNOME >2,
given that I never tested Unity and I gnore something ridiculous, such
as Enlightenment. 

Btw. I don't remember why I renamed a lightdm config to *fuck
in 2013, but it definitively wasn't a keyboard language issue.

$ ls -hAl /etc/lightdm/
total 40K
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   40 Dec 23 11:45 keys.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6.9K Dec 23 11:45 lightdm.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.7K Aug  2  2013 lightdm.conf.fuck
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.1K Aug  7  2013 lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.7K Mar  8  2015 lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.2.0.0-2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.7K Oct 29 19:33 lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.pacnew
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  452 Dec 23 11:45 users.conf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1.5K Dec 23 11:45 Xsession

Everything depending on GTK >= 3.20 does break things, even within
minor relases, IOW you even can't trust common soname sense.



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