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Date:      Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:16:12 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        kaveman@magna.com.au (Julian Jenkins)
Cc:        terry@lambert.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, dennis@etinc.com, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Commerical applications (was: Development and validation
Message-ID:  <199701192216.PAA14223@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970120000823.484F-100000@kavemachine.magna.com.au> from "Julian Jenkins" at Jan 20, 97 00:09:05 am

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> > Since really no one is interested in this discussion (or at least "no one
> > capable of doing anything about it by virtue of historically indentured
> > membership in the existing power structure"), I'll just go back to being
> > the observer.
> 
> Propose a Model. Submit patches!

Droll.

A model was proposed and patches submitted in the fashion you
suggest.  The pre-patched model was "NetBSD" and the post-patched
model is "OpenBSD".

Unfortunately, the patches consisted of modifications of the data
against which the process was run rather than patches to the process
...rather remniscent of George Orwell's "Animal Farm".

I question whether the data, once a model is instantiated, will not
actively seek to revert the model, to the detriment of all involved.
A nice analogy can be had by noting the P6 still has an 8086 mode
so the data doesn't have to change.

Like dark matter, the data created in the framework of one model
has mass and inertia, and therefore a rather Newtonian bias against
change.  Bluntly: once in a rut on a dirt road, the tendency is to
remain in the rut, even if you have an onramp to a paved road right
next to you.

Anyone can be core team member if they form their own core team; the
question is one of whether or not the formation of a core team in the
first place isn't the source of some of the problems the fleeing
individuals are trying (unsuccessfully, observations indicate) to
escape.


					Regards,
					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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