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Date:      Tue, 22 Jul 2014 22:53:28 -0400
From:      Paul Kraus <paul@kraus-haus.org>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: deciding UFS vs ZFS
Message-ID:  <483CBF75-1553-4A0D-916B-1B3F1B9B7CBA@kraus-haus.org>
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On Jul 22, 2014, at 8:33, RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Would you rather lose a third of your books, or a third of the
> chapters from all your books?=20

If you are storing data you do not want to lose on non-redundant =
storage, well, then you deserve what you get. Whether it is UFS or ZFS.

What I really do not understand is this mindset that using ZFS (on a =
single drive) is an all-or-nothing proposition in terms of failures. =
What kind of failure with a partitioned drive and UFS will yield *less* =
data loss than ZFS? Bad disk blocks? ZFS sees the bad checksum and lets =
you know. What does FreeBSD UFS do with bad blocks (or silently corrupt =
blocks)?

On the other hand, having to guess up front how much space will be =
needed in each of the various (manually managed) partitions is a =
crap-shoot. More often than not leaving lots of unused space that =
*other* partitions could really make good use of. That is, in my =
opinion, the biggest management advantage of ZFS on a single drive=85 =
pooled storage with the ability to control it (quotas and reservations).

But I have only ever run ZFS on a single drive for testing purposes. All =
of my real data is on redundant storage. I rsync the data directories on =
my laptop with my server at home on a regular basis (and even use Time =
Machine, yes the laptop is a Mac) at the office, so I have THREE copies =
of the important data (one of which is redundant). The cost of storage =
and low end servers is much, much less than the cost of lost data.

--
Paul Kraus
paul@kraus-haus.org




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