Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 16:27:01 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= <fernape@freebsd.org> To: Kyle Evans <kevans91@ksu.edu> Cc: Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "<dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 0a0f7486413c - main - man: Build manpages for all architectures Message-ID: <CAGwOe2Y=H7EkC56v3o24ifoPmy57f8Kbzo3FKwsHKKiP-xPNEA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CACNAnaHrps0-DL0BdM4C0KqoxasrdbBumS20P=L3HQ5yU=KHGA@mail.gmail.com> References: <202106300806.15U86pGq037942@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20210706090311.aomxh4n45tkpktdc@aniel.nours.eu> <c272868f-8552-d914-9d63-32a4af8e51ce@FreeBSD.org> <20211125142339.zxkjpbohkxk4hete@aniel.nours.eu> <9226a616-d279-9702-f13f-cee7299afc7a@FreeBSD.org> <CACNAnaHrps0-DL0BdM4C0KqoxasrdbBumS20P=L3HQ5yU=KHGA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 4:15 PM Kyle Evans <kevans91@ksu.edu> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:30 AM Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 25/11/2021 16:23, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 03:57:41PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> > >> Looking at the output I got another thought: do we need architecture sub-dir
> > >> links at all now that we install manpages to a main directory?
> > >> Is there any benefit to having the same manpage in a directory (like man4)
> > >> and its immediate subdirectory (like man4/arm) ?
> > >>
> > > Hardlink not in the same directory is imho a fragile setup anyway, what if a
> > > user has different mount points here, the hardlink would be broken. while there
> > > is little chances someone is doing that, history told me people are doing weird
> > > things and if they haven't yet, they will soon.
> > >
> > > I continue to think this kind of links should be 1/ symlinks, 2/ relative
> > > symlinks if they are in a situation which can become a cross device issue.
> >
> > Yeah... but are they needed at all? :-)
> >
>
> It's handy in the sense that it'd be nice to install all arch manpages
Not also handy. From the original commit:
----------
Building and installing architecture-specific man pages only
raises a number of
problems:
* The https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi is incomplete. As an
example, it does not show results for pae(4). The reason for this is
that the cgi interface runs on FreeBSD amd64.
* In FreeBSD amd64 some manual pages have broken X-refs. See hptrr(4)
for an example.
* Also, we have broken links in our Release Notes. This is a
consequence of the first point. See
https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/hardware/#proc-i386.
----------
Would anyone try this patch
https://people.freebsd.org/~fernape/fix-dnoroot.patch?
It seems to work(around) the problem, at least with:
makefs -D -B little -o label=FreeBSD_root -o version=2 ufs.part METALOG
and
tar -c -f archive.tbz @METALOG
Cheers.
> on some machines, e.g., I develop arm stuff on amd64 and there are
> some drivers that simply aren't applicable to amd64, I'd like to be
> able to find those. I think the implementation is a bit odd, though,
> leading into:
>
> > I mean, whichever way we install manpages they are always installed into manX.
> > I do not see a point / benefit of having another copy / link / whatever in
> > manX/arch.
> >
>
> I guess I haven't read the context much here, but I don't see why
> either. /usr/bin/man's built-in search behavior checks
> $mandir/$machine and $mandir/$machine_arch before $mandir, it seems
> like we should be leaving them there and letting man do its thing. If
> you need a non-native arch then you can hopefully just poke around the
> arch subdirs (presumably mostly section 4 pages) to figure it out.
> There's a reason they're arch subdirs, and trying to install links or
> arch-specific pages into the main $mandir is asking for trouble when
> we actually have conflicting pages for whatever reason between archs.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kyle Evans
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