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Date:      Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:38:09 +0000
From:      Matt Thomas <matt@lkg.dec.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Giant Sized Ethernet Packets 
Message-ID:  <199609191638.QAA26304@whydos.lkg.dec.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:29:44 MST." <199609191929.MAA01280@phaeton.artisoft.com> 

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In  <199609191929.MAA01280@phaeton.artisoft.com>, Terry Lambert wrote:

> >    The answer to this is complicated, but it basically ends up being "no".
> > I just spent about 15 minutes looking over the DC21140 hardware reference
> > manual. It appears that the chip can except larger frames, but it signals
> > an error condition when this occurs, so I don't think you could do this
> > as a normal mode of operation.
> 
> I would find this suprising, since it would imply that DEC's cards can't
> run DECNet (which has a nasty habit of shoving huge frames around).

That is *complete* and *utter* bullsh*t.  DECnet uses standard size
Ethernet frames.  Always has, always will.

> I believe huge frames are technically illegal (according to Xerox),
> so you should epect that there are hardware limitations which will
> be biting you somewhere.  This doesn't stop DEC from using them, though,
> so I suspect any card capable of DECNet/LAT/MOP/etc. *should* be
> physically capable of supporting it.  AMD LANCE-based cards should
> have no problem (except, as you note, potentially in the driver).

Again, no DEC developed protocol uses over-sized Ethernet frames.

Why do I know this?  Because for the last several years I (as a 
Digital employee) have owned (and continure to own) all the DECnet
specifications.  In fact, I implemented most of them as well.

-- 
Matt Thomas               Internet:   matt@3am-software.com
3am Software Foundry      WWW URL:    http://www.3am-software.com/bio/matt.html
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