Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 17:03:05 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Goran_Meki=C4=87?= <meka@tilda.center> To: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>, Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com> Cc: "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-usb@freebsd.org>, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, Jung-uk Kim <jkim@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: VirtualBox Extensions Pack (for USB and Video) Message-ID: <3F6B7381-976C-416F-8D28-4C669A9AA003@tilda.center> In-Reply-To: <CAFYkXjm3rJR-1ZAgfptbaWMjJ-kckY-BRga8Y-aE_7R%2Bp88bAw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAFYkXjnT5iunTh=RkkT7BRKL3P4wF22_ToSJX_3j5_YyV_gWzw@mail.gmail.com> <bf4789e9-3cfd-1403-22c9-9674c0a52d23@FreeBSD.org> <CAFYkXjmZhftTtH-mAfdeeQ6mv8ECJFFeE93ShMWxh6Bu7GRE1g@mail.gmail.com> <f93eda0f-fa66-7403-5553-19bcce6be291@selasky.org> <85e11f37-c111-0052-bdcd-d87386a2c49b@gmail.com> <CAFYkXjk9RDPpAMLfzVHpUUM2bP3bpk5F0bKjcVuYOBkMoJYFxQ@mail.gmail.com> <96026bdc-5c60-6724-b96f-5da8aa17d55c@gmail.com> <CAFYkXjm3rJR-1ZAgfptbaWMjJ-kckY-BRga8Y-aE_7R%2Bp88bAw@mail.gmail.com>
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As far as I know bhyve doesn't have USB passthroug which I understand you'r= e after=2E It might be false as I didn't check since last year On 7 May 2019 16:44:45 CEST, Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro=2Einfo> wrote: >On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 4:40 PM Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail=2Ecom> >wrote: >> On 5/7/19 7:26 AM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >> > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 4:11 PM Johannes Lundberg ><johalun0@gmail=2Ecom> wrote: >> >> On 5/6/19 12:42 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: >> >>> On 2019-05-06 20:49, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >> >>>> @HPS have you ever considered such operation? If the FreeBSD's >USB can >> >>>> be shared to the userland, maybe that could be also shared to >the >> >>>> Virtual Machine? >> >>> Hi, >> >>> The problem is inside VBOX, that the USB APIs only support USB >1=2Ex and >> >>> not in FreeBSD from what I understand last time I checked=2E >> >>> --HPS >> >> Maybe bhyve is an option? I have completely replaced virtualbox >with >> >> bhyve for my vms and loving it but I haven't tested it with usb >yet=2E >> > Hmm, thanks Johannes for that hint=2E=2E can you run Windoze (yuck), >Linux >> > and other stuff as full hypervisor or does this work more like >> > separated dedicated FreeBSD Jail? >> >> I haven't tried Windows but it's supposed to work=2E I'm running Ubuntu >> successfully with graphical desktop in bhyve=2E It uses VNC for the >> graphical interface so it's not the best experience but it's usable >if >> you don't have too high requirements=2E Mostly my VMs are headless=2E >> >> Check >https://www=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/doc/handbook/virtualization-host-bhyve=2Ehtml >> >> For managing my VMs I like this one >https://github=2Ecom/churchers/vm-bhyve > >Sounds really nice and what I need! More than that we would develop >true Open-Source solution :-) > >Thank you Johannes !! :-) > >Best regards :-) >Tomek > >--=20 >CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www=2Etomek=2Ecedro=2Einfo >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-usb@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list >https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-usb >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-usb-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg" --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Tue May 7 15:19:19 2019 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35CE158A62B; Tue, 7 May 2019 15:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x329.google.com (mail-ot1-x329.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::329]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 739CF8D4F3; Tue, 7 May 2019 15:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-x329.google.com with SMTP id v17so7193572otp.13; Tue, 07 May 2019 08:19:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=rCm3FR1HZlqrhAcxH8qw8bqHIwfKi1Zc1C9MbtBc5fs=; b=IMXEZwiscx7yirMtrLGh1DTRUmWXRf+nm6AnZRIOaiujtFwxJPgo6iSmf1fN6t/+Ns EJTaOg1eAD0sLFZpBL+/qa1WyO7N0LJPfY6wbJQTgssWzrAuotSucHkQwCxQfbbccAWD 6okUxa6GayiMB6lOaOKFPjWsejGrX3aTVC3uJ7TPOqs3JLQGX26YYiArS0XT0cZe/nn1 XqORhXR7iT5HETAoi1U3eONmLh9Vf3kzZsi6QOj+fVYjq7onAIx9DEc8KpDI/39ZWHCG P7oTivA+6F40udNWL+o1/gLMaQRykpwOIzjYiT1L0tMkCUFqHZntLg8I9tF21Eqpcon3 FP0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-language; bh=rCm3FR1HZlqrhAcxH8qw8bqHIwfKi1Zc1C9MbtBc5fs=; b=U2wtMNkEh8D1SArhqaZtm8YkNUQ45OW4EtpSve+uO6ADIajaEpwQJL5DjSUOcGL3II j6jKYMjQ4bW3Ul+SkeYQQZGJH8Q+hqJPIwgfYFLrZdTjypawbA0AkCkEtHwtOCQL8THt Ie0Ee3CUWv1SUlA0dnUrRbbPX+Jg3bZMzaTaQOUFWxUjmQBABcI4ZeXjY18bvgRRZ2sr tRINp0LI59TVWieQX4EX2iS2FAs0Ugj6QCtl8mE3XtPuU957xktrsJw5IAmisKwk9Kws nq6gTACa9rr5yu3ZnyVL5cX+AhYRKr+PZpDLa2R4yvIdbIGZkli/pc4Tf16nMSPhXrYn 3tig== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUyatK1ZTZW7g7DX5qPirbxAg81KxcpBTGF4bpUoCwWVgFdisXj WcKBaxf8fONtRZeADJkvuCQCoU2maR8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyssHNTkuCmPc8bGy3aW0rhbqK67ZQKpK++W3TTIW7G+I5RBiQ2zEr5VFXhSFW5ewvo9ktQ3w== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:23:: with SMTP id 32mr20985064ota.89.1557242355863; Tue, 07 May 2019 08:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2600:8800:6900:7ab:1265:30ff:fe82:52ff? 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DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; IP_SCORE(-3.01)[ip: (-9.51), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.22), asn: 15169(-2.26), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.920,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support <freebsd-x11.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-x11>, <mailto:freebsd-x11-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-x11-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11>, <mailto:freebsd-x11-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 15:19:19 -0000 Out of curiosity I googled and it seems you might be able to pass-through the entire USB controller using PCI pass-through. Not sure it's so practical=C2=A0 if you end up loosing input capability on the hos= t (and also the guest since it's VNC)... Would be nice though if bhyve had all the required functionality so we'd have a more "native" and open source solution for all VM needs. On 5/7/19 8:03 AM, Goran Meki=C4=87 wrote: > As far as I know bhyve doesn't have USB passthroug which I understand > you're after. It might be false as I didn't check since last year > > On 7 May 2019 16:44:45 CEST, Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> wrote: > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 4:40 PM Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.co= m> wrote: > > On 5/7/19 7:26 AM, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 4:11 PM Johannes Lundberg > <johalun0@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 5/6/19 12:42 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > > On 2019-05-06 20:49, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > @HPS have you ever considered such operation? > If the FreeBSD's USB can be shared to the > userland, maybe that could be also shared to > the Virtual Machine?=20 > > Hi, The problem is inside VBOX, that the USB APIs > only support USB 1.x and not in FreeBSD from what > I understand last time I checked. --HPS=20 > > Maybe bhyve is an option? I have completely replaced > virtualbox with bhyve for my vms and loving it but I > haven't tested it with usb yet.=20 > > Hmm, thanks Johannes for that hint.. can you run Windoze > (yuck), Linux and other stuff as full hypervisor or does > this work more like separated dedicated FreeBSD Jail?=20 > > I haven't tried Windows but it's supposed to work. I'm running > Ubuntu successfully with graphical desktop in bhyve. It uses > VNC for the graphical interface so it's not the best > experience but it's usable if you don't have too high > requirements. Mostly my VMs are headless. Check > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/virtualization-host-bhyve.= html > For managing my VMs I like this one > https://github.com/churchers/vm-bhyve=20 > > > Sounds really nice and what I need! More than that we would develop= > true Open-Source solution :-) > > Thank you Johannes !! :-) > > Best regards :-) > Tomek > > > --=20 > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.=20
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