Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:05:38 -0800 From: Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org> To: Gerhard Sittig <Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net> Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how to test out cron.c changes? (was: cvs commit: src/etc crontab) Message-ID: <3A5D7762.DC8DE5D@FreeBSD.org> References: <200011191816.KAA81473@freefall.freebsd.org> <20001119214008.Z27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001120143658.B4415@netmode.ece.ntua.gr> <20001120193326.C27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001205225656.Z27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001220211548.T253@speedy.gsinet> <3A513799.75EAB470@FreeBSD.org> <20010102133239.V253@speedy.gsinet> <20010107170840.G253@speedy.gsinet> <3A5AE490.D251F590@gorean.org> <20010110233907.L253@speedy.gsinet>
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Gerhard Sittig wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:14 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> > Gerhard Sittig wrote:
> > >
> > > It's not that I want to talk you into something you don't
> > > want.
> >
> > But that's exactly what you're trying to do.
>
> Honestly -- no! :)
Alright, I give up. Your post just before this one shows me that you are
unwilling, or unable to accept the reality of the situation you're
discussing, or even the proper definitions of the terms involved, so my
efforts here are futile.
> I take notice of your (and Greg Black's) reservation / being
> opposed, respect it and conclude that the change will have to
> - default to the current behaviour (something quite usual for
> expanding changes)
> - be well documented (something absolutely clear to all of us,
> strictly speaking it's way out of imagination for us how
> somebody could contribute undocumented stuff ... :)
> - yet be enabled easily for those interested in the change to
> work for them and free up some of their resources for more
> important tasks
> - maybe provide knobs (besides the on-off-switch) to customize
> behaviour in a more fine grained way
I'd say these are the minimal acceptable design parameters for the
project. The options you describe need to be command line options, not
environment variables as someone else described.
> Looking at the echo returning so far
Which represents a very small percentage of the people who need to look at
the change. A significant percentage (probably a majority) of the people
who are freebsd developers abandoned -hackers long ago. When you have a
working set of patches you should post a message to -arch with details and
download instructions.
> BTW: There's good news for those with a dislike regarding the
> change:
You and your associates keep trying to cast this in personal terms. It is
not that I dislike your idea. I think your idea is dangerous, and wrong for
the project. There is a big difference.
Doug
--
"The most difficult thing in the world is to know how to do a thing and
to watch someone else do it wrong without comment."
-- Theodore H. White
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