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Date:      Wed, 4 Oct 2000 04:24:57 +0300
From:      Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
To:        Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
Cc:        Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>, Christopher Masto <chris@netmonger.net>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>, Joseph Scott <joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu>, Brian Somers <brian@FreeBSD.ORG>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/finger finger.c
Message-ID:  <20001004042457.A24642@hades.hell.gr>
In-Reply-To: <200010032330.e93NUNs35249@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>; from brian@Awfulhak.org on Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 12:30:22AM %2B0100
References:  <paul@originative.co.uk> <200010032330.e93NUNs35249@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>

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On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 12:30:22AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
> 
> I don't think that'd be a good idea - it'd just give this ``stable 
> team'' too much to do.  They wouldn't have a chance of identifying 
> everything that's an MFC candidate.  IMHO it would be far more 
> practical to have them review/commit/deny submissions from others 
> instead.

Even people that are not in a separate ``stable team'' can contribute to
testing of new features, and making sure that everything that is MFC'ed
to -stable is working as it was expected.

While reading this thread tonight, I went and created a special procmail
rule to my filters to leave a separate copy of the messages that are
sent to cvs-all and contain the string "MFC: " in their body, into a
separate folder called freebsd-cvs-mfc.

Having all the commit messages in a folder like that will constantly
remind me that these things are already into -stable, and that I should
spend some time testing them to see how `stable' they are.

Jordan is very right in one thing he said:

        Keeping -stable stable should be everyone's job, and making that
        an actual reality rather than just a statement would go a long
        ways towards preventing what just happened from happening again.

I think that spending some time reading the MFC messages separately
and testing those features that I can, and sending my results
on this list, is a Good Thing(TM).  Unless anyone dislikes this
test-the-merges-after-they-re-done practise, I think I will spend a few
hours a day testing -stable things and helping make them more -stable :)

-- 
Giorgos Keramidas, < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr >


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