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Date:      Tue, 25 May 1999 04:05:12 -0700 (PDT)
From:      asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami)
To:        horikawa@jp.freebsd.org
Cc:        ache@nagual.pp.ru, horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, ru-freebsd-doc@freebsd.ru, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk
Subject:   Re: Replace man/ja with man/ja_JP.EUC (FDP Directory Reorganization)
Message-ID:  <199905251105.EAA67875@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>
In-Reply-To: <19990517160148W.horikawa@ebina.hitachi.co.jp> (message from Kazuo Horikawa on Mon, 17 May 1999 16:01:48 %2B0900 (JST))
References:  <19990516183643.A15766@nagual.pp.ru> <19990517160148W.horikawa@ebina.hitachi.co.jp>

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 * From: Kazuo Horikawa <horikawa@jp.freebsd.org>

Sorry, should have replied to this sooner.

 * I understand that we need not have more than one subdirectory under
 * man/ to store Japanese online manuals.
 * 
 * I think that replacing /usr/share/man/ja with /usr/share/man/ja_JP.EUC
 * could be done easily (by modification of doc/ja/man/Makefile.inc and
 * src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist).  But, replacing /usr/local/man/ja with
 * /usr/local/man/ja_JP.EUC may not be easy, because this replace forces
 * ports' maintainers to rewrite manpage destinations (all pkg/PLIST
 * which contains man/ja should be modified).  Mr. Asami, is this change
 * acceptable for ports team?

I'm still not convinced why this is necessary in the first place.  The
transition from "ja_JP.EUC" to "ja" was a very painful one for the
ports committers and our users.  Is it really worth it?

 * If man/ja is replaced with man/ja_JP.EUC, new FreeBSD's man command
 * can find ja_JP.EUC manuals under man/ja_JP.EUC.  But it cannot show
 * Japanese online manuals, because FreeBSD's groff command and more
 * command cannot handle Japanese text now.  This replace do not have
 * merit now, so I personally think that we do not have to replace man/ja
 * with man/ja_JP.EUC now.

I read that we can't use ".EUC" for the chinese version anyway since
there are more than one EUC's over there.

Does this string (".EUC" or whatever) actually mean anything, or is it
there just to satisfy someone's sense of coherency?  Do we ever plan
to support ja_JP.jisx0208 and ja_JP.jisx0201 and others as well as
ja_JP.EUC?  Which man page are the commands going to display if the
user sets LANG to "ja"?  Why can't we just make a symlink from
"ja_JP.EUC" to "ja"?

I don't pretend to understand all the issues but this just looks like
a change for the sake of the change.  (Especially since you people
started from ja_JP.EUC to begin with. :)

Satoshi


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