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Date:      Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:26:49 +0200
From:      John Hay <jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za>
To:        Colin Percival <colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk>
Cc:        Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com>
Subject:   Re: Ok, are all the panics fixed now?
Message-ID:  <20030828042649.GA96634@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za>
In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.1.20030827124821.02d392b8@popserver.sfu.ca>
References:  <20030827133126.D4269@odysseus.silby.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030826212312.07923ea0@209.112.4.2> <5.2.0.9.0.20030826212312.07923ea0@209.112.4.2> <20030827122327.GA17847@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20030827133126.D4269@odysseus.silby.com> <5.0.2.1.1.20030827124821.02d392b8@popserver.sfu.ca>

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> >> So, I think we'll just include a warning with 4.9:
> >>
> >> WARNING!
> >>
> >> Do not attempt to stress a FreeBSD 4.9 machine if you:
> >
> >or "Upgrade your FreeBSD to RedHat".
> 
> s/RedHat/FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE/
> 
> >It's simple: we need to backout all these untested MFCs.
> 
>   Or fix the bugs.  I don't know anything about the code in question, but 
> now that people are getting repeatable panics, I assume that tracking down 
> the bugs will be rather easier.
>   There was a time when STABLE absolutely needed to be stable, but I'm not 
> sure that's necessarily the case any more; now that we have all the 
> release/security branches, I think it's safe to say that most systems which 
> need absolute stability aren't going to be running STABLE.

But the security branches don't get bug fixes, only security fixes. So
at the the end we don't have a branch for stability anymore. I think
that is a step in the wrong direction. I think by the time we get to
x.4 or x.5 of a branch, it should be rock stable and only get bug
fixes, with maybe device drivers added. Big changes should be avoided.

John
-- 
John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za / jhay@FreeBSD.org



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