Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 14:50:53 +0000 From: tech-lists <tech-lists@zyxst.net> To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 14: Poll armv6 deprecated or removed Message-ID: <YYPzTRDcoISN8RNj@ceres.zyxst.net> In-Reply-To: <CAK7dMtAta=uv48omVA8HwnXh8VUZR_oX8_xUYSD2Y0AqfoD9zw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CANCZdfr_WsHbbeY6FyKxFdx7dOaFEhk%2BiJLYQ6F4rLOUuf-zRQ@mail.gmail.com> <YYJXCgH3NADcO8X5@server.rulingia.com> <YYJmVd4w/UcUkC4i@ceres.zyxst.net> <CAK7dMtAta=uv48omVA8HwnXh8VUZR_oX8_xUYSD2Y0AqfoD9zw@mail.gmail.com>
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--VNmVAG70LQrkNslD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 09:52:19AM -0700, Kevin Bowling wrote: >FreeBSD wants any audience to help support the features they demand. Since >this particular audience has not, what may cause it to in the future? Not a >rhetorical question nor a vote for removing, this is a perennial problem in >open source and I am curious how you think this works so I can incorporate >it into my opinion. Maybe the audience isn't demanding? It doesn't mean the audience isn't there. perl and python and shell scripting work fine on these boards.=20 Issues with these things would I guess be taken up with those maintainers.= =20 The hardware is very stable. I'd expect that a lot more users might pipe=20 up if their freebsd os needed updating for some newer python only to find= =20 it couldn't be updated anymore. The first of those to pipe up i'd guess=20 be those with boards that have an internet-facing connection, as the=20 pressure to keep fully updated is a lot less within a firewalled LAN. OpenBSD immediately after install has an email on the system giving a method to send in a dmesg. I don't know if it gives them a handle on the number of users and what their hardware is, but it's better than nothing at all, which is where FreeBSD is. Although there is a port called sysutils/hw-probe, one needs to know about it first. It's not in base. For armv6 in particular though, I've not heard of any reason justifying *why* getting rid of it. At least if it's in base we can compile ports for it ourselves. mips/mips64 stopped because the working group stopped working with it, fair enough. This isn't the case with armv6. It might be helpful looking from another viewpoint - why is armv6 a tier1 architecture on NetBSD? --=20 J. --VNmVAG70LQrkNslD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmGD80QACgkQs8o7QhFz NAXvtRAAlGjqCo2PZ5AO1zAbguY5HvD3Cwf3X1tDVztTkwOtrslKgLJHS156q1To UMYw2lCwuSJAXiyD97Kgdns+fUGcVBuMjBEWD4xin5UBqvoNzLCrk9zLJgwv2nAB /Jgdazfelln3Nx4L15da1XUwtUKelB/LjyIpbprK6TTcRekJwLPSUby6rXgtWI50 zHaJbB3xCu2ZT/jQu/ADjCvVv9LehXeVVh6Z76WQNkpNcv14LRV6iP6a2OBpzKDa cR6Z9EsSPqQY8/Dg9fSIl13/Fkv8y+Ot9cHU+W5XOIGgMYr8ZikSWp6S/PcbskI0 4FC6wHQpO/mEqVSJkDTTPhCTjrucDu7s5F08D81bi4wN8D6kblxFq6i37kq72tF2 NtVGmy4VfZ2oOvW2LhpF/bKBLeozDBdTh8YddRnuztReGhNcuCEcjqjNDmn3wa1s eK7p+ssGmFzaJfl1QyPWY0KAHjf/gWyUxcZeij2yPOVpFe8EOiOHcnQdibVZ+Rsu 2tmW4zxDgrZeHBP+k/RkMJqLVuIRT5OH8oXUl4whyVrJoMU2Yt6iMIx+udSyWy4y j1lfYT2pint5zjj3xAEdr857ypzlQ8frI/85SufQUDidUMMP885ZeidMGIdwvYia oR0oJxXri3Px1QgA2hxKBbiu4SYAMQOpdX/m9tYgcN5H36KYCI4= =UvTI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VNmVAG70LQrkNslD--
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