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Date:      Sat, 3 Feb 2018 16:57:58 +0100
From:      Peter Ulrich Kruppa <opsyspref@gmail.com>
To:        Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
Subject:   Re: German keyboard support for gdm???
Message-ID:  <CALMZ5n5kDZbwPG7%2BfeB1Cv%2B8NgNOPy1PwPmdEgLLJmeVbYO4ag@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20180203163902.0ae3ea93@archlinux.localdomain>
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Hmm, this sounds a bit frustrated.
I didn't use freebsd for some time because somewhere around 9.x things
started getting a little bit too weird for my daily work. Last week I came
across some old notebook at work and was completely surprised I could
install and run FreeBSD 11.1 nearly "out of the box". Especially Gnome-3
runs as smoothly as one can expect and looks quite nice. So someone seems
to have invested a lot of work and I would like to make use of it.

Peter


On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 4:39 PM, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions <
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 13:36:22 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
> >Overriding an X (global!) setting is still a bad idea for "the right
> >behaviour" for GDM, in my opinion... but well, that's Linux... ;-)
>
> I won't tolerate that :D! Asuming this should be the case, then it's a
> GTK/GNOME folks related upstream default config issue!
>
> I suspect that several display managers or their greeters provide an
> option to override X settings, but this at least is disabled by
> default (if this should be the GDM culprit, theire still is the chance
> for the FreeBSD maintainers to care about the defaults ;).
>
> However, FreeBSD does provide Linux DEs. At least the "big" DE's seem
> to require Wayland as an X replacement in the close future.
>
> The last time I used FreeBSD + Linux I was on Xfce, nowadays I'm using
> Linux only and migrated to a plain window manager. I can't stand DE's
> anymore and on top of my "I can't stand this list" is GNOME >2,
> given that I never tested Unity and I gnore something ridiculous, such
> as Enlightenment.
>
> Btw. I don't remember why I renamed a lightdm config to *fuck
> in 2013, but it definitively wasn't a keyboard language issue.
>
> $ ls -hAl /etc/lightdm/
> total 40K
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   40 Dec 23 11:45 keys.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6.9K Dec 23 11:45 lightdm.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.7K Aug  2  2013 lightdm.conf.fuck
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.1K Aug  7  2013 lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.7K Mar  8  2015 lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.2.0.0-2
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.7K Oct 29 19:33 lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.pacnew
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  452 Dec 23 11:45 users.conf
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1.5K Dec 23 11:45 Xsession
>
> Everything depending on GTK >= 3.20 does break things, even within
> minor relases, IOW you even can't trust common soname sense.
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