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Date:      Tue, 03 Sep 2019 14:06:55 -0000
From:      Mariusz Zaborski <oshogbo@freebsd.org>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Cc:        rgrimes@freebsd.org, Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r345982 - in head: include lib/libc/sys sys/cddl/compat/opensolaris/sys sys/compat/cloudabi sys/compat/freebsd32 sys/compat/linux sys/kern sys/sys sys/ufs/ffs
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In the https://wiki.freebsd.org/AddingSyscalls we mentions that we need to bump
__FreeBSD_version. I confirmed that with Warner. So this was my mistake.

Thanks Shawn.
-- 
Mariusz Zaborski
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On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 08:35:07AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> In message <201904071510.x37FA7tm050626@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. 
> Grimes"
> writes:
> > > On April 7, 2019 7:11:52 AM PDT, Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org> wr
> > ote:
> > > >On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 09:34:26AM +0000, Mariusz Zaborski wrote:
> > > >> Author: oshogbo
> > > >> Date: Sat Apr  6 09:34:26 2019
> > > >> New Revision: 345982
> > > >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/345982
> > > >> 
> > > >> Log:
> > > >>   Introduce funlinkat syscall that always us to check if we are
> > > >removing
> > > >>   the file associated with the given file descriptor.
> > > >>   
> > > >>   Reviewed by:	kib, asomers
> > > >>   Reviewed by:	cem, jilles, brooks (they reviewed previous version)
> > > >>   Discussed with:	pjd, and many others
> > > >>   Differential Revision:	https://reviews.freebsd.org/D14567
> > > >
> > > >Hey Mariusz,
> > > >
> > > >Is __FreeBSD_version supposed to be bumped after adding new syscalls?
> > > >I can't remember off-hand.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > 
> > > I don't think so. Why force the rebuild of all ports through poudriere over
> >  something that would never affect any of them?
> >
> > So that you can if version >= foo to know it is safe to use the new syscal?
> > Or if version  < foo you must use the old way.
> 
> Granted. However we do need something to avoid gratuitous rebuilds of 
> ports.
> 
> Personally, my poudriere script adjusts the pkg version 
> ($JAILPATH/data/packages/${JAIL}-${PORTS}/.building/.jailversion) with 
> that of the jail version (reported by poudriere jail -i -j $JAIL), 
> rebuilding all ports when I (the human) determines when the machine 
> should rebuild all ports with -c.
> 
> In that regard FreeBSD version bumps occasionally seem a little 
> gratuitous. Using the same indicator to tell whether software should be 
> able to use a new feature and when ports build infrastructure should 
> summarily delete all packages forcing a rebuild of absolutely 
> everything is probably not the best.
> 
> Just throwing out an idea, what if poudriere considers the first N 
> bytes of __FreeBSD_version significant? Having said that, looking at 
> __FreeBSD_version, I don't think we have enough digits to do what I was 
> planning on suggesting. But, you get the idea of what I'm driving at. 
> Maybe a new macro such as __FreeBSD_ports that is incremented every 
> time a change that affects ports?
> 
> Anyhow, I'm not too terribly concerned as what I have (selfishly 
> speaking) works. But we may as a group might want to consider this at 
> some point to build some efficiency into the ports part of the equation.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
> FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  http://www.FreeBSD.org
> 
> 	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
>  
> 

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