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Date:      Wed, 15 May 2002 15:08:25 -0400
From:      The Anarcat <anarcat@anarcat.dyndns.org>
To:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/sysutils Makefile ports/sysutils/rclean Makefile distinfo pkg-comment pkg-descr pkg-plist
Message-ID:  <20020515190824.GJ330@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To: <3CE2AF2E.9117FE97@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20020515182415.GI330@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org> <3CE2AF2E.9117FE97@FreeBSD.org>

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On Wed May 15, 2002 at 09:55:42PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> The Anarcat wrote:
> >=20
> > [putting anti-flame on]

s/on/suit on/
=20
> To invite a normal discussion you should at least provide the
> following information:

Well, I expected people to look at the port, but I'll provide more
information here.
=20
> - What `rclean' is for?

"
rclean provides a command-line tool to order and clean content of=20
rc.conf, using option order from /etc/defaults/rc.conf and printing only=20
choices that were different by the default value in /etc/rc.conf.
Output is customizable from "only used values" to "full listing".

WWW: http://www.lapo.it/rclean/
"

> - Why do you think it could be useful in base system?

Well, that part is more personal, but I think it could remove the
tendency people have of complaining about the current /etc/defaults
scheme. There has been a few threads about problems arising when
/etc/defaults/rc.conf was getting updated. I think rclean might help
solve those problems, in the same spirit mergemaster helps managing
configuration file changes.

> Your assumption that the list readers know answers to those two
> questions (or would care enough to dig for the answers by themselves)
> is incorrect and entitles you not to flamewar but to "ugh, what this
> is all about?" reaction from their part and likely to the complete
> lack of any discussion at all as a result.

I wonder what's best after all. ;)

I must admit I was being a bit blunt by just challenging people to put
this in base, somehow assuming everything should go in. In other
words, the question is:

"Why should this go in base?"

rather than:

"Why isn't this in base?"

My apologies.

A.

--=20
Un =E9ducateur dans l'=E2me ne prend rien au s=E9rieux que par rapport
=E0 ses disciples -- soi-m=EAme non except=E9.
                        - Nietzsche, "Par del=E0 le bien et le mal"

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