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Date:      Mon, 13 Oct 2003 02:34:01 -0500
From:      Stephen Hilton <nospam@hiltonbsd.com>
To:        Jason Fesler <jfesler@gigo.com>, <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Firewire on STABLE: Sane for drive-based backups?
Message-ID:  <20031013023401.7eb10b1a.nospam@hiltonbsd.com>
In-Reply-To: <20031011181109.J15184@vette.gigo.com>
References:  <20031011181109.J15184@vette.gigo.com>

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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:11:54 -0700 (PDT)
Jason Fesler <jfesler@gigo.com> wrote:

> 
> I did not have much luck on digging through the archives. Does anyone have
> any sucess stories on using external firewire drives on the stable branch
> of freebsd?  Does hot swap work?  Can I mount, dd or ufsdump or
> newfs/rsync, then umount and unplug it cleanly?
> 
> I'm considering my options for doing once-a-month backups, and tape just
> totally blows the budget.  I'm currently using a second drive to produce
> snapshots, but that doens't leave me with any off-site backups without
> taking the system down to swap drives.


I have been using a Buslink 1394 Firewire HD model #FW80 72E on 2  
4-STABLE systems for backup. The Firewire ports are onbord on an 
ASUS P4PE and an ASUS P3B-1394 motherboard.

Mounting and unmounting works fine, I do have troubles with hot swapping 
though.


On the ASUS P3B-1394 system

FreeBSD 4.9-RC cvsup'd and built/installed today

Snips from my dmesg.boot
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
fwohci0: <Texas Instruments TSB12LV22> mem 0xcb000000-0xcb003fff,0xcb800000-0xcb8007ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1)
fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channel is 4.
fwohci0: EUI64 00:e0:18:00:00:00:16:bd
fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports.
fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
sbp0: <SBP2/SCSI over firewire> on firewire0
fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
fwohci0: BUS reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me)
firewire0: bus manager 1 (me)

sym0: <895> port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xc9800000-0xc9800fff,0xca000000-0xca0000ff 
irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0
sym0: Tekram NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
firewire0: New S400 device ID:0030e001e000177c
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s2a
da2 at sbp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da2: <Oxford S OXFORD IDE Devic 0132> Fixed Simplified Direct Access SCSI-4 device
da2: 50.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled
da2: 76319MB (156301488 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 9729C)
da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <IBM DDYS-T18350N S96H> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C)
da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da1: <SEAGATE ST39173LW 6246> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


SCSI stuff from my kernel config file
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
# using SCSI-IDE atapicam emulation for DVD/CDRW access.
device          atapicam        # emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI ditto via CAM
                                # needs CAM to be present (scbus & pass)
 
# SCSI Controllers
device          sym0            # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
device          scbus0 at sym0
device          da0 at scbus0 target 0
device          da1 at scbus0 target 1
options         SYM_SETUP_SCSI_DIFF     #-HVD support for 825a, 875, 885
options         SCSI_DELAY=3000         #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
                                        # disabled:0 (default), enabled:1
# SCSI peripherals
device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required)
device          da              # Direct Access (disks)
device          sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device          cd              # CD
device          pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
 
# Firewire support
device          firewire        # Firewire bus code
device          sbp             # SCSI over Firewire (Requires scbus and da)
# device        fwe             # Ethernet over Firewire (non-standard!)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

On bootup with my firewire drive plugged in everything is fine.

Unplugging the firewire cable gives this in my console:
fwohci0: BUS reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=2, CYCLEMASTER mode
firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)

plugging the firewire cable back in gives this:
fwohci0: BUS reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=3, CYCLEMASTER mode
fwohci0: SID Error

At this point I cannot mount the firewire drive anymore.

I have tried using 'fwcontrol -r' but no luck.

Any help or pointers appreciated.


Regards,


Stephen Hilton
nospam@hiltonbsd.com



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