Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:50:08 -0400 From: Eric Ekong <eric@unixtechs.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia-driver rebooting machine on X startup Message-ID: <20070911035008.GA1629@blackguy> In-Reply-To: <200709081659.32603.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.com> <200709072045.58773.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <839aec700709071543l241ec6bck8f37712f4dbd4011@mail.gmail.com> <200709081659.32603.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net>
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Same driver different hw, same os version... blackguy# cat /etc/sysctl.conf security.bsd.see_other_uids=0 net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_wrong_iface=0 net.inet6.ip6.v6only=0 kern.ipc.shmall=32768 kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864 vfs.usermount=1 FreeBSD blackguy.unixtechs.org 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #22: Mon Aug 13 23:00:44 EDT 2007 root@blackguy.unixtechs.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BLACKGUY i386 blackguy# dmesg ~ Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #22: Mon Aug 13 23:00:44 EDT 2007 root@blackguy.unixtechs.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BLACKGUY Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ (2162.74-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE> AMD Features=0xc0400800<SYSCALL,MMX+,3DNow+,3DNow> real memory = 3221159936 (3071 MB) avail memory = 3142520832 (2996 MB) ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: <Nvidia AWRDACPI> on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0 acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0 pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0 Correcting nForce2 C1 CPU disconnect hangs agp0: <NVIDIA nForce2 AGP Controller> mem 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.2 (no driver attached) pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.4 (no driver attached) pci0: <memory, RAM> at device 0.5 (no driver attached) isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0 isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0 pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 1.1 (no driver attached) ohci0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> mem 0xe8001000-0xe8001fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: nVidia OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> mem 0xe8002000-0xe8002fff irq 4 at device 2.1 on pci0 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting usb1: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: nVidia OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ehci0: <NVIDIA nForce2 USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xe8003000-0xe80030ff irq 3 at device 2.2 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: EHCI version 1.0 usb2: companion controllers, 4 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: <NVIDIA nForce2 USB 2.0 controller> on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: nVidia EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered nve0: <NVIDIA nForce MCP2 Networking Adapter> port 0xe000-0xe007 mem 0xe8000000-0xe8000fff irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci0 nve0: Ethernet address 00:11:2f:b5:c2:41 miibus0: <MII bus> on nve0 rlphy0: <RTL8201L 10/100 media interface> on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto nve0: Ethernet address: 00:11:2f:b5:c2:41 pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 8.0 on pci0 pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1 rl0: <RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX> port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xe7010000-0xe70100ff irq 11 at device 7.0 on pci1 miibus1: <MII bus> on rl0 rlphy1: <RealTek internal media interface> on miibus1 rlphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:ba:44:04:89 ath0: <Atheros 5212> mem 0xe7000000-0xe700ffff irq 5 at device 8.0 on pci1 ath0: Ethernet address: 00:12:17:6c:5f:0d ath0: mac 5.9 phy 4.3 radio 3.6 pcm0: <Creative CT5880-C> port 0xd400-0xd43f irq 7 at device 9.0 on pci1 pcm0: <TriTech TR28602 AC97 Codec> pcm0: <Playback: DAC2 / Record: ADC> atapci0: <nVidia nForce2 UDMA133 controller> port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf000-0xf00f at device 9.0 on pci0 ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0 ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0 pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2 nvidia0: <Unknown> mem 0xe4000000-0xe4ffffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xe5000000-0xe5ffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci2 nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: <floppy drive controller> port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem 0xd0000-0xd3fff,0xd4000-0xd57ff on isa0 atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ums0: Kensington Kensington Expert Mouse, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 4 buttons and Z dir. ukbd0: Microsoft Natural\M-. Ergonomic Keyboard 4000, rev 2.00/1.73, addr 3, iclass 3/1 kbd1 at ukbd0 uhid0: Microsoft Natural\M-. Ergonomic Keyboard 4000, rev 2.00/1.73, addr 3, iclass 3/1 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2162742160 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 194481MB <Maxtor 6L200R0 BAH41E00> at ata0-master UDMA133 ad1: 286188MB <Maxtor 6B300R0 BAH41B10> at ata0-slave UDMA133 ad2: 114473MB <WDC WD1200BB-00CAA1 17.07W17> at ata1-master UDMA100 acd0: DVDR <PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A/1.04> at ata1-slave UDMA66 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /backup was not properly dismounted WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted WARNING: /mp3 was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted /var: mount pending error: blocks 4 files 1 WARNING: /prod was not properly dismounted acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 cd0: <PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A 1.04> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 66.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed blackguy# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~ # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (root@blackguy.unixtechs.org) Sat Nov # 4 19:30:36 EST 2006 ##Section "DRI" # Group 0 # #Group 438 # Mode 0666 #EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen 0" 0 0 Screen "Screen 1" LeftOf "Screen 0" InputDevice "Microsoft_Natural" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer" "CorePointer" Option "Xinerama" "true" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" EndSection Section "Module" # Load "dri" Load "glx" Load "extmod" SubSection "extmod" Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "allowmouseopenfail" Option "NoPM" Option "TvOut" "off" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Microsoft_Natural" Driver "kbd" Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Resolution" "1600" Option "CursorShadow" "True" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "UltraSharp 2001FP LCD" ModelName "Dell" HorizSync 30.0 - 130.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 200.0 Option "dpms" #DisplaySize 1600 1200 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "UltraSharp 2001FP LCD" ModelName "Dell" HorizSync 30.0 - 130.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 200.0 Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "GeForce 6600GT_0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "Matrox Graphics, Inc." BusID "PCI:2:0:0" Screen 0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "GeForce 6600GT_1" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "Matrox Graphics, Inc." BusID "PCI:2:0:0" Screen 1 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 0" Device "GeForce 6600GT_0" Monitor "monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 DefaultFbBPP 32 Option "HWcursor" "off" Option "DPMS" "on" Option "DigitalScreen1" "on" Option "Busmastering" "on" Option "XFB" "on" Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "on" Option "Composite" "on" SubSection "Display" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" Depth 8 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" Depth 16 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "GeForce 6600GT_1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultDepth 24 DefaultFbBPP 32 Option "HWcursor" "off" Option "DPMS" "on" Option "DigitalScreen2" "on" Option "Busmastering" "on" Option "XFB" "on" Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "on" Option "Composite" "on" SubSection "Display" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" Depth 8 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" Depth 16 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "enable" EndSection X Window System Version 7.2.0 Release Date: 22 January 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.2 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD blackguy.unixtechs.org 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #22: Mon Aug 13 23:00:44 EDT 2007 root@blackguy.unixtechs.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BLACKGUY i386 Build Date: 31 August 2007 Eric * Mel <fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> [070908 10:59]: > Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:59:32 +0200 > From: Mel <fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: nvidia-driver rebooting machine on X startup > > On Saturday 08 September 2007 00:43:59 Darren Spruell wrote: > > On 9/7/07, Mel <fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> wrote: > > > On Friday 07 September 2007 19:43:03 Darren Spruell wrote: > > > > On 9/6/07, Derek Ragona <derek@computinginnovations.com> wrote: > > > > > At 03:10 PM 9/6/2007, Darren Spruell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Wondering if this is a known issue, or if anyone has suggestions to > > > > > get it working...? > > > > > > > > > > Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 SMP i386. > > > > > > > > > > I installed nvidia-driver-100.14.11 from ports (Sep. 5 snapshot), > > > > > Linux compatibility enabled. After loading modules 'linux' and > > > > > 'nvidia', I do: > > > > > > > > > > # X -configure > > > > > # X -config /root/xorg.conf.new > > > > > > > > > > At this point the system spontaneously reboots. 'X -configure' runs > > > > > fine and produces a configuration without issue, but the reboot > > > > > occcurs when launching X. Nothing is output to screen (it flickers > > > > > as if starting X), and nothing is written to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I > > > > > do get the same behavior if running 'xorgcfg'. > > > > > > > > > > Card info: > > > > > > > > > > "NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI] rev 162" > > > > > > > > > > nvidia0@pci7:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x029b10de chip=0x00cd10de > > > > > rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 > > > > > vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' > > > > > class = display > > > > > subclass = VGA > > > > > > > > > > I've tried an alternate version of the binary driver > > > > > (nvidia-driver-96xx) to see if there was any change, and it also > > > > > reboots on X startup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Check your AGP settings and consult the readme, chapter 9, for the > > > > > latest driver. You should be running the latest driver with your > > > > > card. > > > > > > > > > > Make sure you have the correct AGP settings, either letting FreeBSD > > > > > do it in the kernel or disable the kernel and let the Nvidia driver > > > > > manage it. > > > > > > > > So, I'm not having terrific luck with any combination of settings I > > > > try. > > > > > > > > The latest FreeBSD driver release from Nvidia is the same as the > > > > version in the ports tree. This is what I've installed. > > > > > > > > Attempting the AGPGART route (building the driver with > > > > "WITH_FREEBSD_AGP=yes" and disabling NvAgp support in xorg.conf) still > > > > results in a reboot. > > > > > > > > Going the NvAGP route (Building without support for AGPGART, setting > > > > NvAgp to 1 in the xorg.conf, and setting hint.agp.0.disabled=1 in > > > > /boot/device.hints) also results in a reboot when X starts. One thing > > > > I notice here; when I specify hint.agp.0.disabled=1, and check the > > > > output of 'kldstat -v' after booting, I still see several agp drivers > > > > loaded: > > > > > > > > $ kldstat -v |grep -i agp > > > > 387 pci/agp_ali > > > > 388 pci/agp_amd > > > > 389 pci/agp_amd64 > > > > 390 pci/agp_ati > > > > 391 pci/agp_i810 > > > > 392 pci/agp_intel > > > > 393 pci/agp_nvidia > > > > 394 pci/agp_sis > > > > 395 pci/agp_via > > > > > > > > Is this a problem? > > > > > > > > I suspect a couple of problems with what I'm doing. Number one, > > > > there's several knobs to turn (in the driver, in the OS, etc.) and > > > > it's possible I'm not getting the correct combination. Other thing is, > > > > I've been told by a technician that this is a PCI Express video card, > > > > so would AGP even come into play? > > > > > > Probably not. I'm seeing the same thing on one machine, no AGP on MB, and > > > agp kernel modules loaded, but nvidia-driver doesn't care about it. > > > Let's kill all red herrings: > > > - Is COMPAT5X in the kernel? > > > > COMPAT5X doesn't show up anywhere in /usr/src/; I do have 'options > > COMPAT_FREEBSD5' defined, though (stock SMP kernel). > > > > > - Does running `nvidia-xconfig --query-gpu-info' reboot the system? > > > - If you do not load the nvidia kernel module, but use Xorg's "nv" driver > > > does this reboot the system? > > > > No, doesn't reboot the system. Output attached below. > > > > With the 'nv' driver, X starts fine. I don't use it because I don't > > have success with the two output displays and xinerama window sizing. > > > > nvidia-xconfig --query-gpu-info: > > > > Number of GPUs: 1 > > > > GPU #0: > > Name : Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI > > PCI BusID : PCI:7:0:0 > > > > Number of Display Devices: 2 > > > > Display Device 0 (CRT-0): > > EDID Name : DELL 2001FP > > Minimum HorizSync : 31.000 kHz > > Maximum HorizSync : 80.000 kHz > > Minimum VertRefresh : 56 Hz > > Maximum VertRefresh : 76 Hz > > Maximum PixelClock : 162.000 MHz > > Maximum Width : 1600 pixels > > Maximum Height : 1200 pixels > > Preferred Width : 1600 pixels > > Preferred Height : 1200 pixels > > Preferred VertRefresh : 60 Hz > > Physical Width : 410 mm > > Physical Height : 310 mm > > > > Display Device 1 (CRT-1): > > EDID Name : DELL 2001FP > > Minimum HorizSync : 31.000 kHz > > Maximum HorizSync : 80.000 kHz > > Minimum VertRefresh : 56 Hz > > Maximum VertRefresh : 76 Hz > > Maximum PixelClock : 162.000 MHz > > Maximum Width : 1600 pixels > > Maximum Height : 1200 pixels > > Preferred Width : 1600 pixels > > Preferred Height : 1200 pixels > > Preferred VertRefresh : 60 Hz > > Physical Width : 410 mm > > Physical Height : 310 mm > > There's 3 things left I can think of: > - weird module clash > - bug in nvidia-driver (I assume you're running Xorg 7.x) > - driver was not built against running kernel > > Using a working Xorg config from a machine with TV-out, I've tried > compensating for your setup. Please try this xorg.conf: > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "Layout0" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > RgbPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/rgb" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "extmod" > Load "type1" > Load "freetype" > Load "glx" > EndSection > > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "Xinerama" "0" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "keyboard" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Dell" > ModelName "2001FP" > HorizSync 31.0 - 80.0 > VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor1" > VendorName "Dell" > ModelName "2001FP" > HorizSync 31.0 - 80.0 > VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Device0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" > BoardName "Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI" > Option "NvAgp" "0" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" > BoardName "Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > Option "TwinView" "1" > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > > -- > Mel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ======================================================= Eric I. 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