Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 14:53:52 +0200 From: Julian Howard Stacey <jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> To: hackers@freebsd.org Cc: jhs@freebsd.org Subject: Proposal to split hackers@ into 10 lists to reduce traffic. Message-ID: <199508221253.OAA04772@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de>
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There is far too much unsorted volume in the hackers@ mail list. I ask core to consider splitting up hackers@ into at least 5 to 10 interest groups. I suggest choosing a high enough number so that each hackers@ subscriber will readily be able to identify a few lists that do not interest him/her. That way each subscriber would get perhaps 20/30% less traffic, & freefall would send less traffic, & mail list latency would benefit. We could retain hackers as an aggregate read only list, for die hard ominivores who want to read everything. Articles posted would go to one of the 10 sub lists, not to the remnant pseudo hackers list itself. Suggestions for what Majordomo could list: code@ This list is to discuss CODE. Anyone posting here without exactly quoting at least one line of appropriate code from the latest release or snap, (or current in unusual circumstances) will be flamed to hell ! Exception will be allowed for bald statements like: `I have ftp'd foobar.tgz to freebsd.org:/pub/incoming' install@ discussion about the install mechanisms of releases etc, release engineering tools etc release@ discussion about release strategies, timing etc law@ Concerning copyrights, Licensing, Patents, FSF copy left viruses, USA crypt export bans etc. linux@ For all Linux Versus FreeBSD chat, hype, flames etc. advocacy@ For all the chat about how to promote FreeBSD, magazine articles, web sites, plush daemon toys, stickers etc, calls for volunteer effort to promote, etc. vendors@ Low traffic, for few subscribers. Not an advertisers soap box, but where those actually trying (or suceeding) to make a living selling FreeBSD related products, can exchange ideas. For CD-ROM manufacturers, Hardware vendors, & consultants trying to sell the FreeBSD system into new customers sites. People with `neat ideas' but no money or time to dedicate to implementing them, should Not post here (but can subscribe in read-only `lurker' mode). user-groups@ Appeals to start new geographic local user groups, etc. volunteers@ For all those seeking volunteers & offering to help on things. users@ the remnant of hackers traffic that doesnt fit above to be vigorously prunned into further lists as soon as hight traffic areas become apparent. hackers@ Aggregate read only list subscribed to all of above. Leave my CC on the header pleas: it's the last hackers@ thread I can afford time to follow; I'd only been off the net 24 hours, & had to load 1M of mail ! so I've just done echo "unsubscribe jhs hackers" | mail majordomo@freebsd.org If/when Core like approve & implement the idea of sub dividing hackers, I'll look forward to a rash of new lists on announce@freebsd.org, & will gladly subscribe some. If not, I'll miss some good hackers@ articles, but will read less & hope to be more productive :-) PS I have no intention of unsubscribing current@, ports@, [commiters], hardware, security, etc, it's just `hackers' I hope to see core prune. Julian --- Julian H. Stacey Email: jhs@freebsd.org Web: www.freebsd.org/~jhs/
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