Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:14:27 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd> To: Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD? Message-ID: <80C9CF39-B4B2-4F2E-BC30-138BB692C91A@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <20120531102127.GV39168@e-new.0x20.net> References: <C480320C-0CD9-4B61-8AFB-37085C820AB7@FreeBSD.org> <4FC742BF.4080005@my.gd> <20120531102127.GV39168@e-new.0x20.net>
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On 31 May 2012, at 12:21, Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:06:55PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> >> On 5/30/12 8:20 PM, David Chisnall wrote: >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> This is off-topic, so please feel free to disregard it, but I'm sending it to this list in the hope that it will reach a largish number of users. >>> >>> I am currently looking at updating some of our advocacy material (which advertises exciting new features like SMP support), and before I do I'd like to get a better feel for why the rest of you are using FreeBSD. If you had to list the three things you most like about FreeBSD, which would you pick? Are they the same as when you first started using it? >>> >>> David >> >> >> We're using FreeBSD here only for firewall boxes. >> >> >> Reasons for using FBSD for firewalls: >> - CARP >> - relayd >> - PF >> - pfsync >> >> Reasons I can't get management to use FBSD for regular servers (web, >> haproxy, db...): >> - "hard" to use >> - update process is "hard", time-consuming and annoying (as opposed to >> debian's for example) >> >> A regular debian update is 5 minutes + reboot >> A regular FBSD update is about 1.5 hour + 3 reboots (after >> installkernel, installworld, rebuild of ports) > > But how often do you need to As a matter of fact, too often, that's te problem. We have > 800 servers and I can't argue that debian's update process is much simpler and faster. There is also the performance aspect. We get better performance on Haproxy and PGsql on Debian than on bsd.help
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