Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 09:45:47 +0200 From: Rozhuk Ivan <rozhuk.im@gmail.com> To: Felix Palmen <zirias@freebsd.org> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports community is broken Message-ID: <20240219094547.7cc05361@rimwks.local> In-Reply-To: <4ekno7iwxvdlw4xeholcrxuuazmcstxkqyidrz27ni43lzu6wg@3ro6r5b2vhoi> References: <20240218015843.34c5d078@rimwks.local> <7q6ep7m2eee6yqtxftlwkhuwdkssd74vjow55txms7lkokazfu@grrqllhefges> <20240218174921.a8082649142dd43a469bebfa@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <4ekno7iwxvdlw4xeholcrxuuazmcstxkqyidrz27ni43lzu6wg@3ro6r5b2vhoi>
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 11:16:33 +0100 Felix Palmen <zirias@freebsd.org> wrote: > * Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> [20240218 17:49]: > > [a lot about automotive regulations] > > That's a nice example how comparisons of entirely different domains > almost always go completely wrong. > > To start with, cars (and especially individual parts) typically aren't > subject to consumer customizations, and if they are, it's way outside > the manufacturer's responsibility. Here, we were talking about > breakage that only happened when you customized your port builds. We > aren't talking about security-relevant breakage either. A lot of words instead of a simple recognition of a mistake. > As explained in the PR as well, of course we add (temporary) > workarounds to *individual* ports when it seems necessary. We > certainly don't add workarounds to the framework itself unless it's > perfectly clear there will be no other way. Not even considering yet > that just fiddling with CFLAGS has the potential to break a lot of > other things when done globally. > > All I have left to say is seeing a toxic thread like this is a very > frustrating experience. So, I'll now move on to something else. > This is an erroneous policy leading to the loss of trust and users. Ports should work, the rest is not important.
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