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Date:      Tue, 25 Nov 2025 20:36:25 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Piotr Kubaj <pkubaj@anongoth.pl>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What's the plan for powerpc64 in FreeBSD 16
Message-ID:  <CANCZdfpXPW8Uj5bA_-stZWFObf0Og=kK5YuCxK64%2BniO8ez5NA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 3:05 AM Piotr Kubaj <pkubaj@anongoth.pl> wrote:

> I don't like this proposition. I'm a user of two POWER9 boxes, one is a
> workstation used with FreeBSD in pseries, the other is a server which runs
> FreeBSD in powernv. Both run powerpc64le but the workstation also runs
> powerpc64.
>
> That said, I probably wouldn't mind removing powerpc64, but I definitely
>
>
> want powerpc64le to stay.


There's been many such messages around powerpc64le. And they have more
backing to them than the typical 'oh, please don't remove it, I like it too
much' messages that often are the only replies to such requests. And
there's offers of resources. Once we can figure out what we can use, who we
can work with, etc, we'll share the details here. It likely won't be going
away, but I don't want to get too far ahead of the announcements.

I'm unsure about powerpc64be... I'll try to summarize the issues in another
post to separate the two issues better once I've had a chance to catch up
on email that I got behind on last week.

Warner

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<div dir="ltr"><div>[[ catching up on email, and picking one of the many messages in arch@ to summarize ]]</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 3:05 AM Piotr Kubaj &lt;<a href="mailto:pkubaj@anongoth.pl">pkubaj@anongoth.pl</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I don&#39;t like this proposition. I&#39;m a user of two POWER9 boxes, one is a<br>
workstation used with FreeBSD in pseries, the other is a server which runs<br>
FreeBSD in powernv. Both run powerpc64le but the workstation also runs<br>
powerpc64.<br>
<br>
That said, I probably wouldn&#39;t mind removing powerpc64, but I definitely                                                                                                             <br>
want powerpc64le to stay.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>There&#39;s been many such messages around powerpc64le. And they have more backing to them than the typical &#39;oh, please don&#39;t remove it, I like it too much&#39; messages that often are the only replies to such requests. And there&#39;s offers of resources. Once we can figure out what we can use, who we can work with, etc, we&#39;ll share the details here. It likely won&#39;t be going away, but I don&#39;t want to get too far ahead of the announcements.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m unsure about powerpc64be... I&#39;ll try to summarize the issues in another post to separate the two issues better once I&#39;ve had a chance to catch up on email that I got behind on last week.</div><div><br></div><div>Warner</div><div><br></div></div></div>
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