Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 09:04:53 +0800 From: Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org> To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Cc: postmaster@FreeBSD.org, Lucas Nali de =?utf-8?q?Magalh=C3=A3es?= <rollingbits@gmail.com>, jake h <jakehfreebsd@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Spam mail being sent via the FreeBSD mailing lists Message-ID: <1FCAC5FA-0091-458F-8B93-C2EFF0DE8824@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <202105261451.14QEov8j007524@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <202105261451.14QEov8j007524@fire.js.berklix.net>
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On 2021-05-26 22:50:57 (+0800), Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Kurt Jaeger wrote: >> Hi! >>>> On May 25, 2021, at 8:53 PM, jake h <jakehfreebsd@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I have recently received several pieces of spam mail, apparently >>>> sent via >>>> this mailing list. These pieces of mail are the usual spam formula; >>>> Your >>>> phone has a virus, Ads, Fake blackmail, so on and so forth. >>>> Has anyone else noticed these spam emails, or is it just me? >>> I'm receiving these too. It looks like the servers are bouncing some >>> of them just for me, even. And I'm receiving not just from this >>> list; also from freebsd-hackers@ and ports@. >> >> postmaster@ is aware of the problem, we do not yet have a clear-cut >> solution and we're investigating. >> -- >> pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ? > > I'm on most lists & also seen much spam lately. > > Changing Mailman list configs to only allowing postings from > subscribed > addresses could dump nearly all spam; (I'm a Mailman admin elsewhere > ). This was how the majority of FreeBSD mailing lists were configured. Most lists were set to discard postings from non-subscribers. Some were set to hold. A few were set to reject. > But @freebsd.org has prefered open lists for near all lists. > Best only for the initial fresh- after- install- questions@, IMO. This has not been true for a good while now. Historically, nearly all our lists were indeed open. In recent years, we've made most lists subscriber-only, with some exceptions and whitelists. > List back end responses to eg isp@ & hackers@ have recently migrated > from Mailman to Mlmmj, I guess that shouldn't directly affect spam > protection ? but it'd be interesting to know what advantage the > migration might bring @freebsd.org ? For one thing, running supported software means we can continue upgrading our mailservers with fewer worries. Mailman 2 relies on Python 2, which has unfortunately become abandonware. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises
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