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Date:      Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:44:58 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Problems with AMD64 and 8 GB RAM?
Message-ID:  <20050331051458.GM6252@wantadilla.lemis.com>
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On Wednesday, 30 March 2005 at 21:28:36 -0700, Scott Long wrote:
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 30 March 2005 at 23:01:03 -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2005, at 8:54 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>>
>>>>> lapic0: LINT1 trigger: edge
>>>>> lapic0: LINT1 polarity: high
>>>>> lapic1: Routing NMI -> LINT1
>>>>> lapic1: LINT1 trigger: edge
>>>>> lapic1: LINT1 polarity: high
>>>>> -ioapic0 <Version 0.3> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
>>>>> +ioapic0 <Version 0.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
>>>>> cpu0 BSP:
>>>>>    ID: 0x00000000   VER: 0x00040010 LDR: 0x01000000 DFR: 0x0fffffff
>>>>> lint0: 0x00010700 lint1: 0x00000400 TPR: 0x00000000 SVR: 0x000001ff
>>>
>>> This shows that in the - case the APIC is broken somehow (0.0 isn't a
>>> valid I/O APIC version).
>>
>> You mean the + case, I suppose.  Yes, that's what I suspected.
>>
>>> It would seem that the system has mapped RAM over top of the I/O
>>> APIC perhaps?
>>
>> That's what I suspected too, but imp doesn't think so.
>
> I'd be more inclined to believe that there is an erroneous mapping
> by the OS, not that things are fundamentally broken in hardware.

Agreed.  This has been my favourite hypothesis all along.  But isn't
that what jhb is saying?

> Your SMAP table shows everything correctly.  It's becoming hard to
> break through your pre-concieved notions here and explain how things
> actually work.

No, there's nothing to break through.  I think you're just having
problems

1.  expressing yourself, and
2.  understanding what I'm saying.

I have no preconceived notions.  All I can see here is an antagonistic
attitude on your part.  What's the problem?  You'll recall from my
first message that I asked for suggestions about how to approach the
issue.  jhb provided some; you haven't so far.  From what you've
written, it's unclear whether you disagree with jhb or not.  If you
do, why?  If you don't, what's your point here?

>>> It would be interesting to see the contents of your MADT to see if
>>> it's trying to use a 64-bit PA for your APIC.
>>
>> Any suggestions about how to do so?
>
> man acpidump

How do you run that on a system that won't boot?

Greg
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