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Date:      Thu, 11 May 2017 10:58:43 +0800
From:      David STIEVENARD <stievenard.david@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   a howto section in the freebsd wiki ?
Message-ID:  <40540c06-c07d-a65d-b718-438ed33fae21@gmail.com>

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Dear eminent members of the FreeBSD documentation mailing list,


I started to use freebsd 3 years ago in order to create small IT 
infrastructures for the company I work for. I'm more into networking but 
I had to get more familiar with a *nix operating system to I tried linux 
and freeBSD at the same time, and this last one has my preference (but 
I'm still a beginner).

I'd like to create a "howto" section in the FreeBSD wiki to document 
installation of applications.



*Why ?*

wiki
- I want to share few tutorials I wrote for myself in blood and tears
             i.e. a small (out of date) tutorial I wrote 
https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/install-deluge-in-a-jail.28778/
- use the collaboration feature of a wiki to have docs as up to date as 
possible. Another differentiator : up to now I'm still amazed to see 
that what is available in the portstree is quite up to date, I think it 
just needs a bit of documentation to make things more approachable
- I'd like to get experimented users to review, comment, improve
- I'd like to invite people who already write howtos elsewhere to come 
write into the wiki

centralized/official
- when I started up digging into linux and freebsd, the main 
differentiator for me was that, being alone, I have less things to learn 
to achieve tasks with FreeBSD, and the handbook is the foundation of that.
- In it's current form having, let's say, a "how to install samba 4.6.2 
as an active directory on FreeBSD 11" or "how to install the <place the 
last hotness here>" doesn't seems right, but I still need it...So I'd 
like to follow the same "centralized" philosophy and complete the 
handbook with this kind of documentation in a wiki.



*Question : *

- The wiki is targeted to developers, so is that OK to write pages for 
newbies ?

- note : It's my first time using a wiki but I see some limitations in 
moinmoin
     - bold characters in a code section seems impossible to do at the 
moment
         - as seen on https://moinmo.in/HelpOnFormatting -> "the wiki 
markup is ignored"
         - I tried the with the parser feature -> fail
         - contacted the moinmoin team on IRC -> seems impossible to the 
one who answered me
     - no way to discuss about a page ?
         - i.e. in mediawiki 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_talk:Sandbox
     - no "thanks" system



*My suggestion :

*- start on wiki.freebsd.org in it's actual form
- I'll need some help to get some details fixed
     - naming conventions for the howto pages
     - create a howto start page
     - which convention to use to specify the status of a page : writing 
in process / testing / waiting for validation / validated ?
- see how it evolves


As a demonstration of what it could look like, here's a partial draft -> 
https://wiki.freebsd.org/DavidStievenard


thanks for reading me,
dasti







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