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Date:      Sat, 27 Jan 2024 08:28:22 -0800
From:      paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Upgrade 8.4-STABLE to 14-STABLE
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I'll second this as well. Just did something similar, and it was far easier
to simply build a new system and restore from backup or mount the old
filesystems (I don't use ZFS or anything like that).

As for the argument that it's worth doing to learn how things work, unless
you expect to do something like this again, it's not clear that it's a good
use of one's time. Sure, it can be satisfying to make FreeBSD run on an
ipod or clock radio but how practical is the knowledge gained there? Not
many mechanics of my experience learn how to forge spanners and wrenches
that can be easily purchased.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 5:46 AM Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> wrote:

>
> Karl Vogel:
>
> >   On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 02:56:05AM -0500, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> >   > Is there a way to upgrade 8.4-STABLE to 14-STABLE, or even change it
> to
> >   > 14-RELEASE?
> >
> >     Seriously, if it's possible don't even try.  Make (and test) a good
> >     backup, do a clean install from scratch, and restore your old stuff.
> >
> >     You don't want any part of a nightmare like that.
>
>         I'm with Karl (and others) on this.
>         And it occurs to me it might not even work.  Exactly how old is
> the hardware, and what does it have (or not have) that might cause
> modern software to cough up a hairball?
>
>
>                         Respectfully,
>
>
>                                 Robert Huff
>
>
>

-- 
Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/

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<div dir="ltr">I&#39;ll second this as well. Just did something similar, and it was far easier to simply build a new system and restore from backup or mount the old filesystems (I don&#39;t use ZFS or anything like that). <div><br></div><div>As for the argument that it&#39;s worth doing to learn how things work, unless you expect to do something like this again, it&#39;s not clear that it&#39;s a good use of one&#39;s time. Sure, it can be satisfying to make FreeBSD run on an ipod or clock radio but how practical is the knowledge gained there? Not many mechanics of my experience learn how to forge spanners and wrenches that can be easily purchased. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 5:46 AM Robert Huff &lt;<a href="mailto:roberthuff@rcn.com">roberthuff@rcn.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Karl Vogel:<br>
<br>
&gt;   On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 02:56:05AM -0500, Odhiambo Washington wrote:<br>
&gt;   &gt; Is there a way to upgrade 8.4-STABLE to 14-STABLE, or even change it to<br>
&gt;   &gt; 14-RELEASE?<br>
&gt;   <br>
&gt;     Seriously, if it&#39;s possible don&#39;t even try.  Make (and test) a good<br>
&gt;     backup, do a clean install from scratch, and restore your old stuff.<br>
&gt;   <br>
&gt;     You don&#39;t want any part of a nightmare like that.<br>
<br>
        I&#39;m with Karl (and others) on this.<br>
        And it occurs to me it might not even work.  Exactly how old is<br>
the hardware, and what does it have (or not have) that might cause<br>
modern software to cough up a hairball?<br>
<br>
<br>
                        Respectfully,<br>
<br>
<br>
                                Robert Huff<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Paul Beard / <a href="http://www.paulbeard.org/" target="_blank">www.paulbeard.org/</a><br></div>
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