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Date:      Fri, 20 May 2005 12:16:05 -0300
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tulio_Guimar=E3es_da_Silva?= <tuliogs@pgt.mpt.gov.br>
To:        freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Weird behaviour of AIT-3 and (g)tar
Message-ID:  <428DFF35.1000409@pgt.mpt.gov.br>
In-Reply-To: <428D0D79.7010506@rcn.com>
References:  <428CF20F.50607@pgt.mpt.gov.br> <428D0D79.7010506@rcn.com>

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Hi Gary,
   ouch! Thatīs quite disappointing... :( We had already noticed this 
kind of behaviour with DDS-* tapes, but we got some progress varying the 
block size... and yup, Iīm really using gzipped data. :S
  For AIT-3, however, i thought this hardware compression was something 
about using lower tapeīs phisical-rolling speeds or alikes, but I could 
never really find anything concrete about the methods... the only one 
thing I found was they could use "variable block sizes", but thatīs all. 
Again, not many details. Anyway, Iīm giving up the idea of compression 
for now.
  If something, Iīm noticeing that (at least with -b 10) it becomes (a 
lot) slower with time, but I guess this would be more of a question to 
the -performance list.
  Add: while writing this message, I remembered to check the 700Vīs 
"Product Specification Manual", and they mention something about 
dual-partitions, but it seems something that needs to be implemented at 
driver level, since it includes SCSI commands. In this case, I would 
need to format the tape as a 2-partition one... any clue about if and/or 
how that works on FreeBSD?
  Thanks again,

Tulio

Gary Corcoran wrote:

> Tulio Guimarães da Silva wrote:
>
>> Hello again,
>>
>>    Iīm having some trouble putting a Sony SDX-700V SCSI AIT-3 unit to 
>> work on FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE.
>
> ...
>
>>  Besides the speed, hardware compression seems to not being funcional 
>> either. I already tried every 4 possible dip switch setting for 
>> compression, but I am still not able to transfer a 180GB archive to a 
>> (should-be) 260GB medium.
>
>
> I can't help you with most of your problems, but regarding the 
> "compression"...
>
> I would guess that if you have 180GB to backup, it's not all text.  :)
> When I last used a tape drive years ago, when writing to a 2GB tape
> that would supposedly hold 4GB compressed, I could fit only about 1.9GB
> before the tape was full.  Turning off hardware compression, I could fit
> 2GB.  The problem was that I was saving already compressed multimedia 
> files,
> and the tape drive's "compression" just added overhead and took up 
> more space.
> So unless you're backing up text or similar files, don't believe the
> marketing hype about getting 2x the amount onto your tapes...
>
> Gary



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