Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 08:42:06 +0100 From: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org> To: Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Remko Lodder <remko@FreeBSD.org>, doc-committers@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/share/sgml header.ent www/en/layout/css layout.css www/en index.xsl Message-ID: <20061204074206.GE2564@elvandar.org> In-Reply-To: <20061203223415.D69580@fledge.watson.org> References: <200612031944.kB3Ji1Ma081957@repoman.freebsd.org> <45732F01.6040204@FreeBSD.org> <20061203223415.D69580@fledge.watson.org>
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On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 10:51:22PM +0000, Robert Watson wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Remko Lodder wrote:
>
> >Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> >>blackend 2006-12-03 19:44:01 UTC
> >>
> >> FreeBSD doc repository
> >>
> >> Modified files:
> >> share/sgml header.ent en/layout/css layout.css
> >>en index.xsl Log:
> >> Put the Foundation link on the top navbar.
> >> Requested by: rwatson
> >> Approved by: doceng
> >
> >Isn't this something we should discuss on www@ ? We mostly had the idea
> >that if something was to be added on the pages we should remove something
> >to refrain from getting overloaded again. That said; we still have
> >multiple reported issues which should be resolved prior to adding these
> >kind of links.
> >
> >I would like to see at least some discussion on www@ first so could you
> >please ponder on backing out this change till this had been discussed?
>
> Hmm. I would really prefer we keep the highly visible top-of-page link for
> the Foundation while the details are sorted it out, rather than removing
> it. The Foundation is about $140k in the red on our annual budget right
> now, and we're in the throes of a fundraising campaign to try to raise the
> funds to pay for next year's developer travel, conference sponsorshop
> (AsiaBSDCon, EuroBSDCon, BSDCan), developer summits, etc. I appreciate the
> need to go about things the right way, hence our contacting doceng to
> request the change in the first place, but there is a very real and
> concrete reason we want it on there: if we don't raise the funds, the
> Foundation won't be doing much in 18 months' time. Can we find a way to
> resolve the technical issues on the schedule they will inevitably take to
> resolve without reducing Foundation visibility on the front page?
>
Hello Robert,
Well do notice that I am not against the link itself, I am against
the way it was being done. doceng@ is not the proper entity for
these kind of things, they coordinate the development of documentation
and they assign/accept new commitbits. They cannot be seen as the
portmgr@ or core@ teams. The proper way is and should be by contacting
the webmasters mailinglist on www@ and ask for the change there. This
way the webmasters team can either commit it and/or do additional
things.
As the "harm" already had been done, we should not remove the link
now (esp. with your reasoning), but I request that this will be
done the proper way the next time, and we should (www/doc team) really
consider some kind of guideline for new links (To avoid the overload
of information we once had with the old site).
Does that sound reasonable to you Robert?
Cheers,
Remko
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