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Date:      Mon, 03 Jan 2000 15:53:21 +0900
From:      itojun@iijlab.net
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: OpenSSH protocol 1.6 proposal
Message-ID:  <24849.946882401@coconut.itojun.org>
In-Reply-To: drosih's message of Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:20:34 EST. <v04210103b49530a9c448@[128.113.24.47]>

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>>First of all, allow me to thank you for all of the work you have done
>>maintaining OpenSSH for FreeBSD.  I am looking forward to its entry
>>into the base tree. (I'm also planning to convert from SSH to OpenSSH
>>on all my systems as soon as it is feasible.)
>>
>>That said, the prospect of having a FreeBSD specific branch of OpenSSH
>>disturbs me.  I manage an extremely heterogeneous Unix environment and
>>eventually hope to have OpenSSH running an all of my systems.

	I'm not sure which one to add my $0.02, but anyway I throw in mine.

	*Please do not split, or make freebsd branch on, openssh repository.*

	Splitting repository will chew up developers time by merging efforts,
	patching back and forth, and other branch-synchronize-again efforts.
	Use developers' time for real development, not for repository
	synchronization.

	Brian, make sure your changes go back to openssh repository
	(openbsd src/usr.bin/ssh), and not anywhere else.
	Make sure you work with openssh people.
	If you have problem (personal, framewar, whatever) directly contacting
	openssh guys, try to find someone help you do that.
	I have no particular opinion about protocol improvement, but please be
	sure to (1) get your change reviewed by as many guys as you can before
	go in (of course, including openssh folks) as it is security protocol
	issue, and (2) make sure the change directly go back to openssh
	repository, not other place.

	I personally have no problem talking with theo.  I agree I've seen him
	react to emails with strong word sometimes (to me and to others),
	but once you understand his concern and what he cares about (security
	and robustness I believe, but I may be wrong) communication becomes
	much easier.

	$0.02 from a guy burnt his lifetime with multiple *BSD IPv6 support:-)
	(*every* tiny little difference between *BSD really killing us!)

itojun


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