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Date:      Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:14:23 +0600
From:      Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@cytherea.weblab.nsu.ru>
To:        "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
Cc:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@lcs.mit.edu>, Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@freebsd.org>, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: <sys/types.h> or not <sys/types.h>? [Was: cvs commit: src/include grp.h]
Message-ID:  <20020226151423.A57693@cytherea.weblab.nsu.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20020226084959.GA43948@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:49:59AM %2B0300
References:  <200202251355.g1PDtmb35078@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020225140030.GD33818@nagual.pp.ru> <3C7A458F.427FFF8A@FreeBSD.org> <20020225142352.GA34378@nagual.pp.ru> <200202251828.g1PISL382207@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20020226084959.GA43948@nagual.pp.ru>

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:49:59AM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 13:28:21 -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote:
> > <<On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:23:53 +0300, "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru> said:
> > 
> > >> From IEEE P1003.1 Draft 7:
> > 
> > You're looking at the wrong document.  FreeBSD is very far from being
> > ready to implement POSIX 2001 header files.  POSIX 1990, which we do
> > implement, requires <sys/types.h> almost everywhere.
> 
> Well, if we are very far, it will be just little step to be closer.  On
> other case we will be very far forever. If you mean hypotetical one-step
> transition mega-patch in future, it will breaks too many things at once to
> be something real.

Is there any chance we will come anywhere close to POSIX 2001 at all?
What about targeting to POSIX 1990/1996 *now* instead of aiming to the
standard that would likely be rendered obsolete by the time we would
reach it?  Especially, we still appear to not have an agreement on
standard changes introduced between 1996 and 2001.

./danfe

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