Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:21:20 +0300 From: Markiyan Kushnir <markiyan.kushnir@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem Message-ID: <5034F8F0.2000506@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120822102956.GA43074@lpthe.jussieu.fr> References: <20120822102956.GA43074@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
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http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-July/231832.html Already read and discussed/flamed here. -- Markiyan. On 22.08.2012 13:29, Michel Talon wrote: > > David Jackson said: > >> In reference to the claims that systemd developers "do not care about >> portability", this is deceptive and misleading. > > You should read the following interview of Lennart Poettering > http://linuxfr.org/nodes/86687/comments/1249943 > The amount of hubris and self confidence he deploys is really > astounding. I will just quote two extracts: > > " LinuxFr.org : Systemd use a lot of Linux only technologies (cgroups, > udev, fanotify, timerfd, signalfd, etc). Do you really think the Linux > API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are > irrelevant ? > > Lennart : Yes, I don't think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I > think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those systems > when somebody hacks software for the free desktop or ecosystem is a > burden, and holds us back for little benefit. " > > and cherry on the cake > > "LinuxFr.org : Why Linux desktop hasn't been adopted by the > mainstream users ? Linus Torvalds seems to think it's mostly a social > issue and not a technical one. Do you agree with him ? > > Lennart : I think we weren't innovative enough in the interface, and we > didn't have a convincing message and clear platform. If you accept MacOS > as benchmark for user interfaces, then we weren't really matching it, at > best copying it. I think this is changing now, with GNOME 3 which is a > big step forward as an interface for Linux and for the first time is > something that has been strictly designed under UI design guidelines. > " > > > > >
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