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Date:      Thu, 23 Aug 2001 01:23:42 +0300
From:      Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Andrew Kenneth Milton <akm@theinternet.com.au>, cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>, Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@freebsd-services.com
Subject:   Re: Copyright Contradiction in libalias
Message-ID:  <20010823012340.A4824@hades.hell.gr>
In-Reply-To: <200108220624.f7M6OuW72563@harmony.village.org>; from imp@harmony.village.org on Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:24:56AM -0600
References:  <200108202249.f7KMnjU93566@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20010821091441.F21855@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <006e01c12a43$48f9cb30$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010821114020.T313@blossom.cjclark.org> <20010821231841.B96292@hades.hell.gr> <20010821153116.Z313@blossom.cjclark.org> <15234.58543.854779.892964@nomad.yogotech.com> <20010822092358.L21855@zeus.theinternet.com.au> <15234.61394.346674.66625@nomad.yogotech.com> <200108220624.f7M6OuW72563@harmony.village.org>

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From: Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>
Subject: Re: Copyright Contradiction in libalias
Date: Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:24:56AM -0600

> In message <15234.61394.346674.66625@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes:
> : > 
> : > Once it's in the Public Domain you have abandoned your claim to copyright.
> : 
> : On that released version, yes.  But, not on subsuquent versions.  I
> : still maintain my rights to do with the code as I please.
> 
> Then you are creating a new work, based on the public domain work that
> went before it.

Yes, and no.  Distributing the exact same sources (with an extra
copyright part) that says somebody should not copy and distribute it,
as if it were in the public domain, a few weeks after is probably
fraud.  Arguments like "but I put extra work in this second
distribution, since I made this nifty packaging with bright colours
and the CDROM contains those awesome .jpeg images of my new keyboard"
will probably sound a bit funny.

The truth is that this is getting hairy.  If you release something in
the public domain, and then add value to it by changing a few things
here and there, this is clearly a 'derivative' work.  You do have the
right to put any license you want on the derivative, of course - just
like everyone else can put their own license on their own derivative
works.

So you are essentially very right ;-)

-giorgos

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