Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:20:57 -0500 From: Stari Karp <starikarp@yandex.com> To: francesco scaglione <francesco.scaglione@sfr.fr>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? Message-ID: <1487287257.89234.4.camel@yandex.com> In-Reply-To: <20170216170130.36c06c64@biblioteca> References: <CAGnMC6pK_6Mpr=5VUuGX7zCFzqse%2BJsguZK%2BGmDrkyX5cgXkkA@mail.gmail.com> <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> <20170216170130.36c06c64@biblioteca>
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On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 17:01 +0100, francesco scaglione wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:15:31 -0800 > Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > > > > On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: > > > > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=43382 > > > > > 7 > > > > I think that commit message combined with > > > > https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is > > > > enough. > > > The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too > > > often > > > and the CoC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top > > > transparent/detailed to be honest. > > Right, would you want an organization you volunteered for to drag > > your > > name through the mud for some reason? I don't think it's our place > > (the project) to say more than we already have publicly. Please > > drop > > this before it gets out of hand. Discussing people > > personally/negatively in a public forum is not appropriate. > I've read hundreds of texts by John Marino in the FreeBSD mailing > lists > and on the forum, always learning a great amount of things, and > always > enjoying his tone (which I've never ever felt to be too aggressive to > anyone) for its being so enthusiastic. > > Once I even had a question that I considered too stupid to deserve > the > attention of the mailing lists and I decided to ask him directly: he > answered to my mail in half an hour, with the patience that a newbie > very seldom gets. > > Now, something very serious must have happened - I'm not pretending > to > know - but if what you mean by "already have [said] publicly" is > this: > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=433827 > > I don't think that that is enough, really, to dissipate the very > strong > impression that many of us are feeling that the project has just > shoot > itself in the foot in an incredibly stupid way. > > Thank you for your attention, I am also very thankful to John Marino. I don't know him but after long time portmaster user I try to use a Synth when it came to FreeBSD and I had a problems but in my long experience from OS/2 to Freebsd I never had so good help as I had from J. Marino and I love his Synth too. Thank you, Mr. Marino.
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