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Date:      Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:16:34 -0400
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Message-ID:  <3B4C43A2.85516A24@iowna.com>
References:  <200107100332.UAA13663@usr01.primenet.com> <3B4B0856.A67F02FD@iowna.com> <3B4B3866.FBFF9A65@mindspring.com> <3B4B420C.1947DABE@iowna.com> <3B4C084E.2A14655A@softweyr.com>

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Wes Peters wrote:
> Just because you don't see it doesn't make it a bad idea.  Network admins
> begged for years for a centralized IP address space management server;
> now that they've been given one (that works, and is FREE) people like you
> bitch about it and won't use it.  Feh.

Are you saying you use DHCP for servers? If so, maybe I should shut up
and
listen for a while because apparently there's something here I can
learn.
I've been using it for client IP pools for years now, but not for
servers.

> > and FreeBSD is primarily a server OS
> 
> Sez who?

OK, that was a bad statement to make. I made an assumption there which
may
be terribly incorrect and is based only on my customer base. (which
involves
9 FreeBSD servers and only one desktop machine - mine) That is
(admittedly)
a painfully small sampling and I have never seen any survey to back that
statement. I'll consent that it was unfounded.

> For what it's worth, my DoBox now does an automatic DHCP with a short time-
> out, and if it doesn't get a least on the DSL or CableModem uplink, tries
> a PPPoE lease.  If that fails as well, THEN it asks the user what to do,
> because it has exhausted it's limited supply of knowlege about how to
> automatically configure the uplink.  That, my friends, is the correct way
> to do it: try everything you reasonably can, then and only then pester the
> user if none of the default(s) worked.

Well, the only place I dislike this is a server. Since many (most?)
servers
will be able to get DHCP addys, but the admin would rather them have a
static
IP. However, my original whine about DHCP was based on the assumption
that
most FreeBSD machines are servers and since I have to admit that I can't
back that statement up, I'll have to admit that I really don't have much
experience in how much demand there is for automatic network config
during
install time.

The only statement I can accurately make is:
"_I_ would like to have the option to NOT use DHCP at install time."

-Bill

-- 
If a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush,
then what can I get for two hands in the bush?

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