Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:06:53 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jesper Wallin" <z3l3zt@hackunite.net> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? Message-ID: <4550.213.112.193.44.1088442413.squirrel@mail.hackunite.net> In-Reply-To: <200406281644.i5SGiM0h097809@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200406281706.11188.matt@fruitsalad.org> <200406281644.i5SGiM0h097809@lurza.secnetix.de>
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Heya.. Heh, sure, I do agree that alot of people do almost everything to avoid a reboot.. but yet, MySQL (or any other daemon) is a quite bad example since it's not a part of the base system. You can update ALL kind of daemons without a reboot.. But sure, it's better to be safe than sorry and high uptime is mostly a lack of security but yet a proof of stability. :) Regards, Jesper Wallin > Matt Douhan <matt@fruitsalad.org> wrote: > > On Monday 28 June 2004 16.03, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Rob <stopspam@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of > > > > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the > > > > timer jumps to zero again. > > > > > > > > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years ! > > > > > > I'd be very embarrassed to have machines with that a high > > > uptime -- It means that they haven't been updated for that > > > a long time and are probably full of security holes. ;-) > > > > why ? > > > > they may not be public machines at all and be isolated to an environment where > > security is not the primary concern > > You did notice the smiley, didn't you? > > But seriously, I think that the widespread uptime fetishism > is somewhat dangerous. People often try hard to avoid > rebooting machines, just in order to "save their precious > uptime", even if there are good reasons to reboot. > > A machine with 1.5 years of uptime -- be it in an isolated > environment or not -- has accumulated the bugs of 1.5 years > that have been fixed in the latest version of the OS, so to > speak. > > In fact there is software which I wouldn't want to run even > if it were outdated for only a few days. Mysql is one such > example. Every time I looked at the huge list of bugs that > have been fixed in the latest version, I almost got a heart > attack. (Changing to PostgreSQL was very healthy.) > > Those are just my opinions, of course, and YMMV. > > I'm very sorry, it got quite off-topic by now. > > Best regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München > Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author > and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. > > "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, > lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination > of their C programs." > -- Robert Firth > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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