Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 11:12:06 -0800 From: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, Adam <amvandemore@gmail.com> Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Importing mksh in base Message-ID: <479572CC-DF40-4632-AB19-FB3830ABCDA3@cschubert.com> In-Reply-To: <3C023956-1B69-440E-844B-E09D0C7D9EBE@FreeBSD.org> References: <20190125165751.kpcjjncmf7j7maxd@ivaldir.net> <CA%2BtpaK3i3fOZ-maSwhCGJ0GScv-suwf7-1214YnZH-Ne8Ktcig@mail.gmail.com> <3C023956-1B69-440E-844B-E09D0C7D9EBE@FreeBSD.org>
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On January 25, 2019 10:26:58 AM PST, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > >Le 25 janvier 2019 18:41:51 GMT+01:00, Adam <amvandemore@gmail.com> a >écrit : >>On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 10:58 AM Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> >>wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I would like to import mksh in base, https://www.mirbsd.org/mksh.htm >>> And make it the default root shell (not necessary in one step) >>> >>> Why: >>> 1/ it is tiny 400k (in the packaged version) all other shells >fitting >>the >>> expectation are bigger >>> 2/ it's default frontend in interactive mode is very close to what >>most >>> people >>> are used to with bash and shells as default root shell on other BSD >>and >>> most >>> linuxes >>> 3/ from my narrow window csh as a default root shell is one of the >>major >>> complaint (usually the first thing a user get faced to) from new >>comers and >>> also for some long timers who are reinstalling a machine and have >not >>yet >>> installed/configured a bourne compatible shell >>> >>> What this proposal is _NOT_ about: >>> 1/ the removal of tcsh from base >>> 2/ any kid of denial of the quality and interest or features of csh >>> >>> What do you think? >>> Best regards, >>> Bapt >>> >> >>I do not wish to have a bash like root shell since imo its interactive >>mode >>isn't that great. I don't think conformity is a great argument for >>change >>in this regard. I don't see any other advantage to this change. I >>could >>be wrong but I also think it might be incorrect to say bash is the >>default >>root shell on other BSD's. > > >I am not saying bash is the default but bourne like shell on openbsd >for instance it is a variant or ksh which mksh is a fork of, for >example > >> >>If there is some change to the root shell, I'd rather see it to be zsh >>which does have a good interactive mode. > >zsh is big and evolving quickly, imho not a good candidate for base >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list >https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Mksh is not a fork of ksh93. It is a fork of pdksh. If we are to import a ksh, let's import the real ksh. Not some clone. -- Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use. Cheers, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD.org> Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
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