Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:53:10 -0800 From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" <jgowdy@home.com> To: "Chris Wasser" <cwasser@v-wave.com>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IRC? Anywhere? Message-ID: <002f01c04291$e327c760$aa240018@cx443070b> References: <20001029192623.A8105@area51.v-wave.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wasser" <cwasser@v-wave.com> To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 6:26 PM Subject: FreeBSD on IRC? Anywhere? > Anyone know if there's a FreeBSD channel on IRC that doesn't suck? #FreeBSD on EFNet is lamer then #Linux normally is and > #freebsdhelp on EFnet isn't what I'm looking for. I recently discovered irc.freebsd.org but no one seems to talk there, is > there an actual irc server where one can go for actual technical discussions about FreeBSD and don't have to deal with egos > the size of a linux kernel tarball? #freebsd on EfNet is lame because it's not a help channel ? Does "technical discussions" mean help ? #freebsdhelp is for "technical discussions" that involve other people helping you. #freebsd is a channel for freebsd people to talk about shit, only some of which is about freebsd, and none of which is dealing with help questions. There are two channels, if you don't like one or the other or both, deal with it without acting like a child. The FreeBSD FAQ states loud and clear: Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD forum, but don't go there for tech support or to try and get folks there to help you avoid the pain of reading man pages or doing your own research. It is a chat channel, first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to involve sex, sports or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have Been Warned! Available at server irc.chat.org If you can't be bothered to read the FAQ then tough ****. As for a FreeBSD Channel other than those two FreeBSD channels, one again if you would READ THE FAQ it states: 14. Are there FreeBSD IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channels? Yes, most major IRC networks host a FreeBSD chat channel: a.. Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD forum, but don't go there for tech support or to try and get folks there to help you avoid the pain of reading man pages or doing your own research. It is a chat channel, first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to involve sex, sports or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have Been Warned! Available at server irc.chat.org. b.. Channel #FreeBSDhelp on EFNet is a channel dedicated to helping FreeBSD users. They are much more sympathetic to questions then #FreeBSD is. c.. Channel #FreeBSD on DALNET is available at irc.dal.net in the US and irc.eu.dal.net in Europe. d.. Channel #FreeBSD on UNDERNET is available at us.undernet.org in the US and eu.undernet.org in Europe. Since it is a help channel, be prepared to read the documents you are referred to. e.. Channel #FreeBSD on HybNet is available at irc.FreeBSD.org. This channel is a help channel. Each of these channels are distinct and are not connected to each other. Their chat styles also differ, so you may need to try each to find one suited to your chat style. As with *all* types of IRC traffic, if you're easily offended or can't deal with lots of young people (and more than a few older ones) doing the verbal equivalent of jello wrestling, don't even bother with it. I just get sick and tired of this attitude like you have a right to have people help you and a right to tell other people how to run their channel. If you don't like #freebsd on EFNet and you're not willing to read the damn FAQ, then start your own EFNet FreeBSD channel and run it as you see fit. Data/BasharTeg from EFNet #L [-- Attachment #2 --] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4207.2601" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Chris Wasser" <</FONT><A href="mailto:cwasser@v-wave.com"><FONT face=Arial size=2>cwasser@v-wave.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG"><FONT face=Arial size=2>freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 6:26 PM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: FreeBSD on IRC? Anywhere?</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> Anyone know if there's a FreeBSD channel on IRC that doesn't suck? #FreeBSD on EFNet is lamer then #Linux normally is and<BR>> #freebsdhelp on EFnet isn't what I'm looking for. I recently discovered irc.freebsd.org but no one seems to talk there, is<BR>> there an actual irc server where one can go for actual technical discussions about FreeBSD and don't have to deal with egos<BR>> the size of a linux kernel tarball?<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>#freebsd on EfNet is lame because it's not a help channel ? Does "technical discussions" mean help ? #freebsdhelp is for "technical discussions" that involve other people helping you. #freebsd is a channel for freebsd people to talk about shit, only some of which is about freebsd, and none of which is dealing with help questions. There are two channels, if you don't like one or the other or both, deal with it without acting like a child. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The FreeBSD FAQ states loud and clear:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD forum, but don't go there for tech support or to try and get folks there to help you avoid the pain of reading man pages or doing your own research. It is a chat channel, first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to involve sex, sports or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have Been Warned! Available at server irc.chat.org</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you can't be bothered to read the FAQ then tough ****.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As for a FreeBSD Channel other than those two FreeBSD channels, one again if you would READ THE FAQ it states:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=QANDAENTRY> <DIV class=QUESTION> <P><A name=IRC></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>14. Are there FreeBSD IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channels?</FONT></P></DIV> <DIV class=ANSWER> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, most major IRC networks host a FreeBSD chat channel:</FONT></P> <UL> <LI> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD forum, but don't go there for tech support or to try and get folks there to help you avoid the pain of reading man pages or doing your own research. It is a chat channel, first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to involve sex, sports or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have Been Warned! Available at server irc.chat.org.</FONT></P> <LI> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Channel #FreeBSDhelp on EFNet is a channel dedicated to helping FreeBSD users. They are much more sympathetic to questions then #FreeBSD is.</FONT></P> <LI> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Channel #FreeBSD on DALNET is available at irc.dal.net in the US and irc.eu.dal.net in Europe.</FONT></P> <LI> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Channel #FreeBSD on UNDERNET is available at us.undernet.org in the US and eu.undernet.org in Europe. Since it is a help channel, be prepared to read the documents you are referred to.</FONT></P> <LI> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Channel #FreeBSD on </FONT><A target=_top href="http://www.hybnet.net/"><FONT face=Arial size=2>HybNet</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2> is available at irc.FreeBSD.org. This channel is a help channel.</FONT></P></LI></UL> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Each of these channels are distinct and are not connected to each other. Their chat styles also differ, so you may need to try each to find one suited to your chat style. As with *all* types of IRC traffic, if you're easily offended or can't deal with lots of young people (and more than a few older ones) doing the verbal equivalent of jello wrestling, don't even bother with it.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just get sick and tired of this attitude like you have a right to have people help you and a right to tell other people how to run their channel. If you don't like #freebsd on EFNet and you're not willing to read the damn FAQ, then start your own EFNet FreeBSD channel and run it as you see fit.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Data/BasharTeg from EFNet #L</FONT></P> <P> </P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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