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Date:      Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:56:36 -0800
From:      John-Mark Gurney <jmg@hydrogen.nike.efn.org>
To:        FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: modify termcap to support both A[FB] and S[fb]...
Message-ID:  <19970404235636.44208@hydrogen.nike.efn.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.970405055822.1765A-100000@nagual.ru>; from ??????????????? on Sat, Apr 05, 1997 at 06:34:24AM %2B0400
References:  <19970404221051.PZ02960@uriah.heep.sax.de> <Pine.BSF.3.96.970405055822.1765A-100000@nagual.ru>

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??????????????? scribbled this message on Apr 5:
> On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, J Wunsch wrote:
> 
> > I object against your objection. :-)  ncurses (libdialog?) seems to
> > have made a simlar arbitrary decision about using Sf/Sb.  None if them
> > is ``more correct'' than the other one, and i remember a discussion in
> > the XFree86 team that AB/AF are supposedly from SysV land.
> 
> We don't need to add A* entries, as I already say, the reason is
> misunderstanding between S* and A* treating.
> 
> Sb not equal to AB and Sf not equal to AF.
> 
> Sb (setb) stays as "set background color"
> AB (setab) stays as "set ANSI background color"
> 
> similar things for Sf/AF

could you point me to the document which says this??  I like to make sure
this is the case...  all terminfo_examples.doc says is:
set_a_foreground                "setaf" str     "AF"
or
set_foreground                  "setf"  str     "Sf"

thanks...

> The difference is that S* entries could put any color (like user-defined)
> while A* entries restricts to ANSI colors only.

hmm... but what about the terminals were you define the colors to be ansi
colors (like I've almost done with my tek)...  also..  do you propose to
make ALL applications understand the difference between the two??

> The rule is: if terminal can't redifine colors and its colors are ANSI
> ones, we should use A* entries, else S* entries (not both of them in
> any case).
>
> This subject reveal a bug in cons25 termcap entry, A* should be there,
> I'll fix it ASAP.

you CAN change the console's colors...  maybe not through anything that
FreeBSD provides... but you can do this...

also.. are you going to update ansi's entry too??

ttyl..

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