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Date:      Sat, 21 Mar 2020 01:33:53 +0000
From:      Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>
To:        Jan Bramkamp <crest@rlwinm.de>, "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: TLS certificates for NFS-over-TLS floating client
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Jan Bramkamp wrote:=0A=
>On 20.03.20 02:44, Russell L. Carter wrote:=0A=
>> Here I commit heresy, by A) top posting, and B) by just saying, why=0A=
>> not make it easy, first, to tunnel NFSv4 sessions through=0A=
>> e.g. net/wireguard or sysutils/spiped?  NFS is point to point.=0A=
>> Security infrastructure that actually works understands the shared=0A=
>> secret model.=0A=
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>Why not use IPsec in transport mode instead of a tunnel? It avoids=0A=
>unnecessary overhead and is already implemented in the kernel. It should=
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>be enough to "just" require IPsec for TCP port 2049 and run a suitable=0A=
>key exchange daemon.=0A=
I think the problem with these suggestions is interoperability.=0A=
The draft (that should soon become an RFC) describes use of RPC-over-TLS=0A=
and since the authors are both Linux NFS developers, I expect Linux to=0A=
implement this someday.=0A=
Once the Linux client can do it, the NFS server vendors will implement it.=
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NFS isn't great, but it is supported by a variety of vendors/systems and I=
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see that as one of its main features.=0A=
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