Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:02:39 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl> To: Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org> Cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA [Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files.alpha src/sys/alpha/conf GENERIC NOTES] Message-ID: <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org>
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On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:16:19PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:58:46PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > > >>Wilko Bulte wrote: > >> > >>>On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 12:15:25PM -0700, Bernd Walter wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>ticso 2003/07/21 12:15:25 PDT > >>>> > >>>>FreeBSD src repository > >>>> > >>>>Modified files: > >>>> sys/conf files.alpha > >>>> sys/alpha/conf GENERIC NOTES > >>>>Log: > >>>>Enable eisa support on alpha. > >>>>We need eisa bridge support on some models, which now depends on having > >>>>eisa in the kernel. > >>> > >>> > >>>Without having checked: what about the bootfloppy? > >>> > >> > >>This is a loosing fight. While there is still some value in having > >>floppies for x86, is there really any value in them for Alpha? My > >>understanding is that CD-ROMs have been standard on all Alphas for > >>the past 5-10 years. Netbooting is an easy alternative for those > > > > > >Correct. On all Alpha's in fact. Even the DEC3000 etc. > > > > > >>without CDs or bandwidth. We do not do floppies for sparc64 and ia64, > >>and I would hope/expect that we don't do them for amd64. I think it's > >>time to cut them out of Alpha. > > > > > >Absolutely. But everytime we planned on doing that there was uproar. > >You obviously loose the network install with just a floppy to boot from. > >But miniinst.iso fills that gap, at least IMHO. > > > >W/ > > > > Is there an alternative for those in remote areas that can neither > download the miniiso nor buy the cd set? Every time that we talk about > downloading iso's, the issue comes up of those in eastern-bloc and > asian countries that have little bandwidth. Can Alpha do a 'boot-only' > cd image that is <5MB? Maybe. But you would need a lot of other stuff to make it useful as an installed system so why would the size of the boot'kit' be so important? I mean, you need the rest of the bits downloaded anyway to get a useful installation. Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte
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