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Date:      Sat, 18 May 2013 07:55:54 +0000
From:      Ivailo Tanusheff <Ivailo.Tanusheff@skrill.com>
To:        "bsd@todoo.biz" <bsd@todoo.biz>
Cc:        Liste FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: ZFS install on a partition
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Hi,

If you go with RAID6 setup on your RAID I think you will not need spare so =
much, as you will actually have data redundancy distributed over 2 disks.
I think you can use 2 or 3 LUNS, just to have more flexibility in the solut=
ion, but it is not a must :)

For the usage of two copies on pool named "mypool" issue:
zfs set copies=3D2 mypool

Best regards,
Ivailo Tanusheff

-----Original Message-----
From: bsd@todoo.biz [mailto:bsd@todoo.biz]=20
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:46 AM
To: Ivailo Tanusheff
Subject: Re: ZFS install on a partition


Le 18 mai 2013 =E0 09:21, Ivailo Tanusheff <Ivailo.Tanusheff@skrill.com> a =
=E9crit :

> Hi,
>=20
> If you use HBA/JBOD then you will rely on the software RAID of the ZFS sy=
stem.

This is the config of my backup system - not the one I am planning to updat=
e.=20

> Yes, this RAID is good, but unless you use SSD disks to boost performance=
 and a lot of RAM the hardware raid should be more reliable and mush faster=
.

Ok=20

> I didn't get if you want to use the system to dual boot Linux/FreeBSD or =
just to share FreeBSD space with linux.

Neither one !=20
I want to setup a full FreeBSD only system.=20
Will be used to deploy jails.=20

> But I would advise you to go with option 1 - you will get most of the sys=
tem and obviously you don't need zpool with raid, as your LSI controller wi=
ll do all the redundancy for you. Making software RAID over the hardware on=
e will only decrease performance and will NOT increase the reliability, as =
you will not be sure which information is stored on which physical disk.

Ok

>=20
> If stability is a MUST, then I will also advise you to go with bunch of p=
ools and a disk designated as hot spare - in case some disk dies you will r=
ely on the automation recovery. Also you should run monitoring tool on your=
 raid controller.

I can't do that because of the design of the machine I will use.=20
I only have LUN's available configured as volume on top of a RAID 6 pool of=
 disks.=20

This is presented as a block device to the system.=20

> You can also set copies=3D2/3 just in case some errors occur, so ZFS can =
auto0repair the data. if you run ZFS over several LUNs this will make even =
more sense.=20

Ok I'll try to figure out how to do that during install in order to have th=
at as soon as possible during the system install.=20


Thx.=20

>=20
> Best regards,
> Ivailo Tanusheff
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20
> bsd@todoo.biz
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:24 AM
> To: Liste FreeBSD
> Subject: ZFS install on a partition
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I have a question regarding ZFS install on a system setup using an Intel =
Modular.=20
>=20
> This system runs various flavor of FreeBSD and Linux using a shared pool =
(LUNs).=20
> These LUNs have been configured in RAID 6 using the internal controller (=
LSI logic).=20
>=20
> So from the OS point of view there is just a volume available.=20
>=20
>=20
> I know I should install a system using HBA and JBOD configuration - but u=
nfortunately this is not an option for this server.=20
>=20
> What would you advise ?=20
>=20
> 1. Can I use an existing partition and setup ZFS on this partition using =
a standard Zpool (no RAID).=20
>=20
> 2. Should I use any other solution in order to setup this (like full ZFS =
install on disk using the entire pool with ZFS).=20
>=20
> 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It woul=
d be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions.=20
>=20
>=20
> P.S. Stability is a must for this system - so I won't die if you answer "=
3" and tell me to keep on using UFS.=20
>=20
>=20
> Thanks.=20
>=20
>=20

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