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Date:      Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:15:27 -0800 (PST)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Nyteckjobs@aol.com
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tedm@toybox.placo.com
Subject:   Re: (no subject)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0111291012500.5212-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <14e.4d05ff7.29371325@aol.com>

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On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 Nyteckjobs@aol.com wrote:

> >As I mentioned above, we CAN license the driver code and the DDK for
> >development.  This means that you could produce FreeBSD drivers which we
> >could then distribute in a binary form under a free end-user license.
> >
> 
> >Frankly this is the only way I can see that FreeBSD drivers for the 5xx
> >series would ever come about.  Porting SAND over, while having >advantages
> >of long term support, is just overkill for this, besides which it's unlikely
> >you will get a FreeBSD developer to work on GPL code.
> 
> >This would end up putting a WANic 5xx driver into the same status as the
> >drivers for the Emerging Technologies, or Sangoma sync cards, which both 
> >come
> >with binary-only FreeBSD drivers.  It would actually have a leg up over
> >those drivers because it would have Netgraph hooks and I believe that the
> >Sangoma drivers don't (but I've never worked with the Sangoma cards so I
> >don't know for certain)
> 
> The concept that "netgraph hooks" are a "leg up" on say, ETs drivers that 
> have integrated bandwidth management and prioritization, WAN bridging 
> support, load balancing and a probably 25% performance advantage is a bit 
> entertaining. Unless you need to do some convoluted encapsulation netgraph 
> is, aside from being appallingly non-standard to anything else in the market, 
>  not much of an "advantage", and its a poster child for the trade off of 
> "flexibility" versus performance.

Netgraph is a prototyping tool, which has enough performance to be useful
in non-performance-critical applications. (such as all sync interfaces).
It is not designed for gigabit interfaces etc.


> 
> Lets face it. If you were going to sit down and design an interface for frame 
> relay, multi-protocol support, etc, you'd have to be smoking something pretty 
> strong to come up with netgraph.  But its free and there is source, so it 
> must be great!

You are entitled to your opinion. I find it humourous but, that's just my
opinion :-)


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