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Date:      Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:18:26 -0500
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
To:        "Simon Matter" <simon.matter@invoca.ch>
Cc:        freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: amd64/186061: FreeBSD 10 crashes as KVM guest on GNU/Linux on AMD family 10h CPUs
Message-ID:  <201402121718.26615.jhb@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <18f55baf8a13457d3d6a89fc4f4ffc61.squirrel@webmail.bi.corp.invoca.ch>
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On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:04:53 pm Simon Matter wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:40:01 am Simon Matter wrote:
> >> The following reply was made to PR amd64/186061; it has been noted by
> >> GNATS.
> >>
> >> From: "Simon Matter" <simon.matter@invoca.ch>
> >> To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
> >> Cc: simon.matter@invoca.ch
> >> Subject: Re: amd64/186061: FreeBSD 10 crashes as KVM guest on GNU/Linux
> >> on
> >>  AMD family 10h CPUs
> >> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:30:51 +0100
> >>
> >>  ------=_20140212083051_97180
> >>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> >>
> >>  As noted by John Baldwin the change to mca.c is not needed. Attached
> >> patch
> >>  is what I'm using now with success.
> >>
> >>  BTW: setting vm.pmap.pg_ps_enabled="0" in loader.conf does also
> >> mitigate
> >>  the issue but I guess it's not the optimal solution.
> >
> > Talking with Alan Cox, we do think the right fix is to change the test to
> > enable the workaround.  However, we'd rather not penalize VM's on other
> 
> I'm afraid that will not work in all situations, no matter how good the
> tests are (see below why I think so). So as a last resort, I suggest that
> it should be possible to enable the "AMD Erratum 383" workaround via
> loader.conf.

I think you misunderstand.  We would only use flags that are never set
on an AMD 10h CPU, so they can never be set in a KVM guest that would
ever migrate to an AMD 10h CPU.  If those flags are present, we know that
we would _not_ need the workaround.  If none of those flags are present,
we would enable the workaround.  Does that make sense?

-- 
John Baldwin



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