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Date:      Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:18:39 -0600
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
To:        rgrimes@freebsd.org, Roger Pau Monn? <royger@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r335629 - in head: share/man/man4 sys/dev/vt/hw/vga
Message-ID:  <1530029919.24573.74.camel@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <201806261555.w5QFtURn003981@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
References:  <201806261555.w5QFtURn003981@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>

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On Tue, 2018-06-26 at 08:55 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 05:21:27AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 08:43:51AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > New Revision: 335629
> > > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/335629
> > > > > 
> > > > > Log:
> > > > >   vt: add option to ignore NO_VGA flag in ACPI
> > > > >   
> > > > >   To workaround buggy firmware that sets this flag when
> > > > > there's actually
> > > > >   a VGA present.
> > > > >   
> > > > >   Reported and tested by:	Yasuhiro KIMURA <yasu@utahim
> > > > > e.org>
> > > > >   Sponsored by:		Citrix Systems R&D
> > > > >   Reviewed by:		kib
> > > > >   Differential revision:	https://reviews.freebsd.org/D
> > > > > 16003
> > > > It is generally best to avoid double negatives,
> > > > couldnt this of been better named? (hw.vga.acpi_force_vga)
> > > Yes please; I get constantly confused when calculating negatives
> > > and
> > > often get them wrong.
> > This is specifically done to workaround a firmware bug where some
> > buggy firmwares set the NO_VGA flag in ACPI.
> We are not conflicted about working around the buggy ACPI.
> 
> > 
> > So the option does
> > exactly what the name says, it ignores the NO_VGA flag in ACPI. IMO
> > acpi_force_vga is not as descriptive as the current name.
> Interestingly that is the text you use to describe it in the man
> page, so it seems as if it is good for the description, but not
> good for the name of the flag itself?
> 
> .It Va hw.vga.acpi_ignore_no_vga
> Set to 1 to force the usage of the VGA driver regardless of whether
> ACPI IAPC_BOOT_ARCH signals no VGA support.
> Can be used to workaround firmware bugs in the ACPI tables.
> 
> This does not mention the ACPI table entry being over ridden,
> 	 if (flags & ACPI_FADT_NO_VGA)
> 
> Further digging I believe you have placed this in the wrong
> part of the hierarchy.  You put it in hw.vga, and it really
> should be in hw.acpi.
> Maybe hw.acpi.bootflags.ignore.no_vga.
> 
> Are there any other bootflags we may want to ignore?
> 
> Regards,


There is ACPI_FADT_NO_CMOS_RTC, with an associated tunable
hw.atrtc.enabled (default is -1), which can be:

  -1 - enabled unless acpi says ACPI_FADT_NO_CMOS_RTC
   0 - unconditionally disabled
   1 - unconditionally enabled

The idea was that if RTC is provided by EFI runtime services, this flag
would indicate that old-school CMOS RTC drivers should not be used.
 But, predictably, it turns out there are bioses that set this flag
even when booting in legacy non-efi mode, leading to a need to ignore
the flag and force use of the old driver.

-- Ian




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