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Date:      Thu, 3 Aug 2023 22:43:43 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, freebsd-arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Future of 32-bit platforms (including i386)
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On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 10:34=E2=80=AFPM John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrot=
e:

> On 8/3/23 2:36 PM, Mark Millard wrote:
> > John Baldwin <jhb_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote on
> > Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 19:57:08 UTC :
> >
> >> On 7/27/23 10:49 AM, shurd@FreeBSD.org wrote:
> >>> On 2023-05-24 01:35, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 23 May 2023 16:46:51 -0700
> >>>> John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 4/27/23 10:19 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
> >>>>>> . . .
> >>
> >> It's not just about make tinderbox, it is also about keeping platforms
> >> viable. One big example is that we probably need to start supporting t=
he
> >> use of rust in the base system in some form in the not too distant
> >> future, but rust isn't supported on armv7 on FreeBSD (and someone woul=
d
> >> need to do the work to make that happen).
> >
> > I'm confused about the "isn't supported on armv7 on FreeBSD"
> > claim:
>
> Please see https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D254853
> as an example.  According to that bug at least rustc is not doable
> under qemu-user which is how armv7 packages are built.
>

I'l need to test this again. A number of interesting bugs have been fixed
in upstream.

Also, I thought we'd shifted building armv7 packages on an aarch64
server that can runs 32-bit jails...

Warner

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 10:34=E2=80=AF=
PM John Baldwin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jhb@freebsd.org">jhb@freebsd.org</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 8/=
3/23 2:36 PM, Mark Millard wrote:<br>
&gt; John Baldwin &lt;jhb_at_FreeBSD.org&gt; wrote on<br>
&gt; Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 19:57:08 UTC :<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On 7/27/23 10:49 AM, shurd@FreeBSD.org wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 2023-05-24 01:35, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Tue, 23 May 2023 16:46:51 -0700<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; John Baldwin &lt;jhb@FreeBSD.org&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 4/27/23 10:19 AM, John Baldwin wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; . . .<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; It&#39;s not just about make tinderbox, it is also about keeping p=
latforms<br>
&gt;&gt; viable. One big example is that we probably need to start supporti=
ng the<br>
&gt;&gt; use of rust in the base system in some form in the not too distant=
<br>
&gt;&gt; future, but rust isn&#39;t supported on armv7 on FreeBSD (and some=
one would<br>
&gt;&gt; need to do the work to make that happen).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I&#39;m confused about the &quot;isn&#39;t supported on armv7 on FreeB=
SD&quot;<br>
&gt; claim:<br>
<br>
Please see <a href=3D"https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D2=
54853" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzil=
la/show_bug.cgi?id=3D254853</a><br>
as an example.=C2=A0 According to that bug at least rustc is not doable<br>
under qemu-user which is how armv7 packages are built.<br></blockquote><div=
><br></div><div>I&#39;l need to test this again. A number of interesting bu=
gs have been fixed</div><div>in upstream.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, I =
thought we&#39;d shifted building armv7 packages on an aarch64</div><div>se=
rver that can runs 32-bit jails... <br></div><div><br></div><div>Warner<br>=
</div></div></div>

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