Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 11:08:50 -0900 From: Royce Williams <royce@tycho.org> To: John Marino <freebsdml@marino.st> Cc: lev@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Removing documentation Message-ID: <CA%2BE3k93iYs1p5Je-AKwJ7pVLdzYgSXWqb4P0XoD0oTJhrkt==Q@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <56BCE218.40403@marino.st> References: <56B754A8.3030605@marino.st> <56BCE01D.4010701@FreeBSD.org> <56BCE218.40403@marino.st>
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:33 AM, John Marino <freebsdml@marino.st> wrote: > > On 2/11/2016 8:25 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 07.02.2016 17:28, John Marino wrote: > > > >> ports-mgmt/synth. I would love to hear what signficant thing > >> portmaster can do that Synth can't. (honestly) > > Be installed FROM PORTS without all this build-one-more-gcc stuff. > > Ada? For *port*management* tool? Are you joking? > > Let me guess. You've spent actually 0.0 nanoseconds preparing on the > subject before providing this enlightened take for the list. Having read the entire thread, separate from the relative merits of Synth, the core of Lev's incredulity isn't that off the mark. On the face of it, Synth requiring ncurses seems reasonable ... but its Ada dependency is a bit of a mild POLA violation. Don't get me wrong -- I actually think Ada is pretty cool, and Lev could have been nicer about it ;), but he's essentially right. People's instincts are that software management is core functionality, and should have few unusual dependencies. My earlier side-thread point stands. FreeBSD software management is fragmented. Until that is resolved, a lot of time and effort will be wasted treating the symptoms. Royce
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