Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:05:42 -0800 From: Parag Patel <parag@cgt.com> To: Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lisp vs. Forth (was Re: New boot loader and alternate kernels ) Message-ID: <199811040105.RAA07550@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 03 Nov 1998 15:19:27 PST." <199811032319.PAA00900@dingo.cdrom.com>
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>Anyone want to cut it "down to size" and see?
Here's the size from the much older v2.9 release just recompiled as ELF:
$ size siod *.o
text data bss dec hex filename
30065 444 3576 34085 8525 siod
246 0 0 246 f6 siod.o
17882 140 0 18022 4666 slib.o
8363 4 0 8367 20af sliba.o
1149 12 0 1161 489 trace.o
And for comparision, the latest v3.4:
$ size siod *.o
text data bss dec hex filename
83495 996 3660 88151 15857 siod
2229 64 0 2293 8f5 md5.o
1411 4 0 1415 587 sample.o
89 24 0 113 71 siod.o
28276 192 108 28576 6fa0 slib.o
25304 24 0 25328 62f0 sliba.o
18817 16 0 18833 4991 slibu.o
1299 16 0 1315 523 trace.o
I'd probably start with the v2.9 version for embedded use. If you
can't dig one up, I can put mine up on ftp.codegen.com.
As for Lisp vs Forth, Jordan covered it pretty well. If you're going
to do most of the work in C code and just want it callable from the
interpreter, either will work fine. Forth lets you get to more
low-level things, and if built as a byte-coded interpreter, can be
smaller, but Forth tends to be write-only in large quantities.
Personally, I guess I'd go with FOCAL or BCPL or TECO or some other
ancient language, just to keep it alive. :-)
The siod v3.4 README has this to say about where to get it:
The most recent version can usually be obtained from
the location http://people.delphi.com/gjc/siod.html or
ftp://ftp.std.com/pub/gjc/siod.tgz
There are probably other places to get it.
-- Parag
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